Water: Turns out it's no big deal.

Moonliner · 04-04-2008, 01:29 PM

New research is showing that a lot of the old information about the health benefits of water was apparently made up and not true. Sure you still need it to live and all but you don't need 8 glasses a day or any of that....

Who would have guessed? No one here that's for sure. Nope not a single person had even a hint this was bogus. Nadda, zippo. All quite on the western front. You think there would have been at least one poster who would spread the truth about water but nope, not here on LoT. This one just flowed right past....

Ghoulish Delight · 04-04-2008, 01:46 PM

No comment.

Snowflake · 04-04-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

No comment.

Pretty smug aren't you, buster brown?

Alex · 04-04-2008, 01:52 PM

I don't see who GD and others who agreed with him can avoid wilting in this face of this rebuttal. So, I officially rescind anything I said in concurrence and revoke any PMs I may have sent on the subject.

I have more to say but it'll have to wait until I return from my ear candling session.

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But Fleckenstein, who wrote Health20 with Roanne Weisman, is a firm believer in water's healing properties and tells people to drink seven glass per day.

"Not because I have a study but precisely because there is NO study giving the exact amount - and seven is a sacred number," she said.

blueerica · 04-04-2008, 01:55 PM

Wow, that's a pretty strong argument for water there, Alex. Har har.

Nice to see it made more public, though. I'd just like people to use more common sense and listening to their own body than rules and statutes on minimum and maximum requirements on any one thing.

Chernabog · 04-04-2008, 04:26 PM

Something is off with that study though, how can they possibly claim that flushing water through your system has no effects on toxin release? For instance, things like drugs in the system are harder to detect via urinalysis if the person has been drinking lots of water (and is dependent on metabolism as well, of course).

I wonder who was funding the study, can't think that there's an anti-water lobby out there.

Ghoulish Delight · 04-04-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog

Something is off with that study though, how can they possibly claim that flushing water through your system has no effects on toxin release? For instance, things like drugs in the system are harder to detect via urinalysis if the person has been drinking lots of water (and is dependent on metabolism as well, of course).

I wonder who was funding the study, can't think that there's an anti-water lobby out there.

You didn't read correctly. They didn't claim any such thing. All they said was that there has been no study to prove that it does, or to what degree, or with what side effects, or that water does it any better than coffee, or that it doesn't just relocate the toxins elsewhere, etc. etc. Yes, there is anecdotal evidence, but that's NOT the same as proof.

And no one's anti-water. People are anti-misinformation.

Chernabog · 04-04-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

You didn't read correctly. They didn't claim any such thing. All they said was that there has been no study to prove that it does, or to what degree, or with what side effects, or that water does it any better than coffee, or that it doesn't just relocate the toxins elsewhere, etc. etc. Yes, there is anecdotal evidence, but that's NOT the same as proof.

I only gave a cursory glance at the study, so perhaps I didn't.... but from what I'm reading from your post... what the hell DID they study? They merely studied that there were no studies? LOL that sounds stupid to me. I mean, if you were going to test water's effect on body toxins, wouldn't you like.... test for answers to the questions above?

Ghoulish Delight · 04-04-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog

I only gave a cursory glance at the study, so perhaps I didn't.... but from what I'm reading from your post... what the hell DID they study? They merely studied that there were no studies? LOL that sounds stupid to me. I mean, if you were going to test water's effect on body toxins, wouldn't you like.... test for answers to the questions above?

That wasn't their goal. Their goal was to try to get people to realize that 99% of "medical advice" about drinking water is based on absolutely nothing. The toxins thing is only one of the claims of water's miraculous powers addressed in the article. They did not set out to, and never claimed to be trying to, prove or disprove anything about water. All they were trying to do was bring to light the vast amounts of myth, rumor, and pseudoscience that fuels our water-obsessed culture.

Errr, I mean, no comment.

Alex · 04-04-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog

I only gave a cursory glance at the study, so perhaps I didn't.... but from what I'm reading from your post... what the hell DID they study? They merely studied that there were no studies? LOL that sounds stupid to me. I mean, if you were going to test water's effect on body toxins, wouldn't you like.... test for answers to the questions above?

It was a metastudy which is a well established perfectly respectable endeavor. They weren't doing original research they were examining the body of research that existed to see if it supported the claims being made.

04-04-2008, 01:29 PM	#1
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blueerica Nueve Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,497	Wow, that's a pretty strong argument for water there, Alex. Har har. Nice to see it made more public, though. I'd just like people to use more common sense and listening to their own body than rules and statutes on minimum and maximum requirements on any one thing. __________________ Tomorrow is the day for you and me
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Chernabog Biophage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Moon Posts: 2,679	Something is off with that study though, how can they possibly claim that flushing water through your system has no effects on toxin release? For instance, things like drugs in the system are harder to detect via urinalysis if the person has been drinking lots of water (and is dependent on metabolism as well, of course). I wonder who was funding the study, can't think that there's an anti-water lobby out there. __________________ And they say back then our universe Was a coal black egg Until the god inside Burst out and from its shattered shell He made what became the world we know ~ Bjork (Cosmogony)
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