College for all - right?

[Cadaverous Pallor]

This is worth a read. It is definitely long, but worth it.

Sad, but true.

[sleepyjeff]

Good read CP. Kind of reminds me of that line from The Incredibles....."Everybody is special Dash"......Dash responds mumbling "another way of saying no one is"

[blueerica]

Having faced this, having conquered it (though arguably, I was always meant for college... the train just got derailed...), I don't find it sad, but to be one of the most honest pieces I've read in ages.

At the same time I know I can be proud to have made it through all that, I can't help but thinnk about the Ms. Ls I met, the guys with overstuffed briefcases looking for better pay or a new line of work, the peoplel looking just to grow and learn something new for what seemed like no particular reason at all. And you know, not all of them were as bad as a "Ms. L" though arguably it is probably the most tried and true of college stereotypes. Bless them all.

[BarTopDancer]

I was not "groomed" to go to college. It was never expected of me, and in fact was continually "wet blanketed". There are a myriad of reasons why, and none of them matter now. Yet here I am, struggling to balance work/home life while going to school full time. Going to school because that piece of paper is what is needed to get a job, even in fields where it's "hands on" learning.

The article reminded me of my time at University of Phoenix. Classrooms filled with students who rushed to get there from work. Our main break was filled with a mix of dinner, work and phone calls home. Some students were Ms. L, yet they passed with an A (college for all, an A for all at UoP). Most of my classmates where there because their work insisted they go, or be let go. One of my classmates had been a manager at an aerospace company for 10 years before they decided he had to get a degree or be let go, and replaced with someone much younger, with a degree - but no experience.

College is not for all and high school is not preparing everyone for college. Bachelor degrees are going to become as common as high school diplomas. I suspect that we'll see a similar push for Masters degrees in about 15 years.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

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College is not for all and high school is not preparing everyone for college. Bachelor degrees are going to become as common as high school diplomas. I suspect that we'll see a similar push for Masters degrees in about 15 years.

Yep, I suspect my grandchildren will look at me, with a mere bachelor degree in History, the way I looked at my Grandfather who only had an 8th Grade degree

Of course their grandchildren will wonder why they only have Phd's

[mistyisjafo]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Bachelor degrees are going to become as common as high school diplomas. I suspect that we'll see a similar push for Masters degrees in about 15 years.

Actually, since I work currently with people in higher education that is already the push. Many kids are being told to consider getting a Masters. The Bachelor degree is now the basic "minimum" for a good job. If you want to be a director, supervisor, manager, etc a Masters is becoming the norm.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by mistyisjafo

Actually, since I work currently with people in higher education that is already the push. Many kids are being told to consider getting a Masters. The Bachelor degree is now the basic "minimum" for a good job. If you want to be a director, supervisor, manager, etc a Masters is becoming the norm.

What's gonna happen when everyone has their Masters?

BA is becoming the new high school diploma.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

What's gonna happen when everyone has their Masters?

BA is becoming the new high school diploma.

Just wait until a BA is the new 8th Grade diploma

[CoasterMatt]

I bought a PhD off the interwebs.

[BarTopDancer]

High school did not prepare me for college math.