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Old 05-21-2008, 08:40 AM   #1
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Smile "I'm Mr. Yosuke Nakamura."

I just think this story is the coolest. Lost parrot provides info to a vet to get back home.

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I'm Mr. Yosuke Nakamura," the bird told the veterinarian, according to Uemura. The parrot also provided his full home address, down to the street number, and even entertained the hospital staff by singing songs.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:44 AM   #2
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That was really cute!
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:46 AM   #3
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I love it!
My grandmother had a parakeet which knew all my brothers names and would fly over to your shoulder and talk in your ear.

Very rare.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:45 AM   #4
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I love this story. The fact that he wouldn't talk to the cops totally cracked me up.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:26 AM   #5
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Smart bird! I love the fact that he wouldn't talk to the police.

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Old 05-21-2008, 10:03 AM   #6
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Researcher Irene Pepperberg has done a lot of linguistic work with her African grey Alex. Pepperberg found that Alex was as intelligent as a dolphin or great ape and had a vocab of about 150 words.

Her work with Alex was so important that there is an Alex Foundation. Also, Pepperberg has a book, Alex and Me, coming out soon. It should be wonderful reading.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:22 AM   #7
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Researcher Irene Pepperberg has done a lot of linguistic work with her African grey Alex. Pepperberg found that Alex was as intelligent as a dolphin or great ape and had a vocab of about 150 words.
I will say up front that I know nothing of this particular bird. Also, I will say that the African Greys are quite intelligent. However, there is a lot of doubt over whether they are speaking the words as part of an intelligent conversation or if they are just trained to mimic specific sounds upon earing specific sounds. For example, while a dog may be trained to perform a specific act upon hearing a certain word, the actual word is irrelevant and is typically used for the ease of the trainer. While the dog may roll over when the trainer says "roll over" the dog could be just as easily trained to roll over when the trainer said "cucumber."
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:29 AM   #8
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However, there is a lot of doubt over whether they are speaking the words as part of an intelligent conversation or if they are just trained to mimic specific sounds upon earing specific sounds.
I'm not an expert on this either but there happened to be an article about this very thing in last week's New Yorker magazine.It's here.

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Pepperberg was never particularly interested in teaching Alex language for its own sake; rather, she was interested in what language could reveal about the workings of his mind. In learning to speak, Alex showed Pepperberg that he understood categories like same and different, bigger and smaller. He could count and recognize Arabic numerals up to six. He could identify objects by their color, shape (“three-corner,” “four-corner,” and so on, up to “six-corner”), and material: when Pepperberg held up, say, a pompom or a wooden block, he could answer “Wool” or “Wood,” correctly, about eighty per cent of the time. Holding up a yellow key and a green key of the same size, Pepperberg might ask Alex to identify a difference between them, and he’d say, “Color.” When she held up two keys and asked, “Which is bigger?,” he could identify the larger one by naming its color. Looking at a collection of objects that he hadn’t seen before, Alex could reliably answer a two-tiered question like “How many blue blocks?”—a tricky task for toddlers. He even seemed to develop an understanding of absence, something akin to the concept of zero. If asked what the difference was between two identical blue keys, Alex learned to reply, “None.” (He pronounced it “nuh.”)

Pepperberg also reported that, outside training sessions, Alex sometimes played with the sounds he had learned, venturing new words. After he learned “gray,” he came up with “grain” on his own, and after learning “talk” he tried out “chalk.” His trainers then gave him the item that he had inadvertently named, and it eventually entered his vocabulary.
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:43 PM   #9
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For example, while a dog may be trained to perform a specific act upon hearing a certain word, the actual word is irrelevant and is typically used for the ease of the trainer. While the dog may roll over when the trainer says "roll over" the dog could be just as easily trained to roll over when the trainer said "cucumber."
Uh isn't this just a characteristic of language? the meaning doesn't equal the word. In the example above you and the dog have agreed that the term "cucumber" means roll over.
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Uh isn't this just a characteristic of language? the meaning doesn't equal the word. In the example above you and the dog have agreed that the term "cucumber" means roll over.
If I recall correctly (YMMV), there is a delineation between a human being able to intelligently discern the meanings of spoken words whereas the dog is simply making a Pavlovian level response.

Another way to highlight this is that you can call a dog some of the most vile and profane names and threaten their lives, yet if you do it in a sweet voice, they wouldn't know the difference: they would think you are talking sweet to them. Whereas a human would know the difference.
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