What else happened at Disneyland last Sunday?

mousepod · 03-25-2005, 11:19 PM

Y'know, I have to admit that I've been almost completely off the other boards since I got back this week. Work has been pretty intense, the MousePod pins showed up, I've been feverishly editing the Dave O'Neal interview for the next show...
So imagine my surprise when I read here that Jim Hill was kicked out of Disneyland on Sunday while giving one of his tours.
I apologize if this isn't news to anyone here, but I find it... interesting.
His side of the story is obviously on his site, http://www.jimhillmedia.com/ .

Seems like there's a lot of noise (as there always is on the 'net), not sure if it means much of anything. Opinions?

wendybeth · 03-25-2005, 11:42 PM

Oh, Jim is always pissing off the Disney folks- nothing new there. He's actually fairly conciliatory in that last article, although he is serving notice that Disney is cracking down on unauthorized tours, etc. I don't know if anything weird, or weirder than usual, is going down- just the usual Disney management JH reaction. Do you know the story behind his being barred from attending the shareholders revolt?

Cadaverous Pallor · 03-26-2005, 12:05 AM

Ugh. I'm rather annoyed at him making money from showing people around Disneyland.

innerSpaceman · 03-26-2005, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Ugh. I'm rather annoyed at him making money from showing people around Disneyland.

How do you feel about people making money off a certain game inside the park that arguably disrupts the guest experience far more than any unauthorized tour?

CoasterMatt · 03-26-2005, 12:41 AM

Always reminds me of the money changers in the temple... but I don't like pintraders either

€uroMeinke · 03-26-2005, 09:50 AM

He's cashing in on his expertise, I don't have a problem with that. But Disneyland is private property, so the park is certainly within it's rights to control what business takes place there.

Not Afraid · 03-26-2005, 11:15 AM

Jim pushes the limits - always. So, I'm not suprised. Fab has done paid tours inside the park as well in the past.

As for people making money off of the park, two of the "big" Disney sites have stores that re-sell park merchandise at a profit. Disney doesn't do this, so they provide a good service to those who live far away. I've heard rumors over and over that Disney will be cracking down on that too, but they haven't so far. If they provided a park catalog service themselves, they'd put an end to this, but they don't seem to want to get into that business. Good for these 2 stores!

Cadaverous Pallor · 03-26-2005, 05:24 PM

MA isn't similar to a service provided by Disney. Tours are provided by Disney, and providing your own tour in it's stead is stealing their business, much like selling bootleg merchandise. I don't go to the park and sell cotton candy or homemade mouseears.

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As for people making money off of the park, two of the "big" Disney sites have stores that re-sell park merchandise at a profit. Disney doesn't do this, so they provide a good service to those who live far away. I've heard rumors over and over that Disney will be cracking down on that too, but they haven't so far. If they provided a park catalog service themselves, they'd put an end to this, but they don't seem to want to get into that business. Good for these 2 stores!

I wouldn't go so far as to say "good for them" but rather, "Disney is stupid, and until they get a clue, they deserve to be taken advantage of by the online stores."

Ghoulish Delight · 03-26-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I wouldn't go so far as to say "good for them" but rather, "Disney is stupid, and until they get a clue, they deserve to be taken advantage of by the online stores."

How is Disney stupid? The online stores still buy the mechandise from Disney, so Disney is still making a profit.

Cadaverous Pallor · 03-26-2005, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

How is Disney stupid? The online stores still buy the mechandise from Disney, so Disney is still making a profit.

Disney could be doing the mail-order thing and be making the profit that those online sellers are getting. "Shipping and Handling" adds up to a lot.

03-25-2005, 11:19 PM	#1
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	What else happened at Disneyland last Sunday? Y'know, I have to admit that I've been almost completely off the other boards since I got back this week. Work has been pretty intense, the MousePod pins showed up, I've been feverishly editing the Dave O'Neal interview for the next show... So imagine my surprise when I read here that Jim Hill was kicked out of Disneyland on Sunday while giving one of his tours. I apologize if this isn't news to anyone here, but I find it... interesting. His side of the story is obviously on his site, http://www.jimhillmedia.com/ . Seems like there's a lot of noise (as there always is on the 'net), not sure if it means much of anything. Opinions? __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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03-25-2005, 11:42 PM	#2
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Oh, Jim is always pissing off the Disney folks- nothing new there. He's actually fairly conciliatory in that last article, although he is serving notice that Disney is cracking down on unauthorized tours, etc. I don't know if anything weird, or weirder than usual, is going down- just the usual Disney management JH reaction. Do you know the story behind his being barred from attending the shareholders revolt? __________________
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Ugh. I'm rather annoyed at him making money from showing people around Disneyland. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	He's cashing in on his expertise, I don't have a problem with that. But Disneyland is private property, so the park is certainly within it's rights to control what business takes place there. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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03-26-2005, 11:15 AM	#7
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Jim pushes the limits - always. So, I'm not suprised. Fab has done paid tours inside the park as well in the past. As for people making money off of the park, two of the "big" Disney sites have stores that re-sell park merchandise at a profit. Disney doesn't do this, so they provide a good service to those who live far away. I've heard rumors over and over that Disney will be cracking down on that too, but they haven't so far. If they provided a park catalog service themselves, they'd put an end to this, but they don't seem to want to get into that business. Good for these 2 stores!
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