Go ahead and ask, go ahead and tell

Ghoulish Delight · 01-15-2009, 10:28 AM

Obama's press secretary has answered with a flat out "yes" as to whether Obama plans to oveturn "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

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BarTopDancer · 01-15-2009, 10:34 AM

won't someone think of the children??????????????

JWBear · 01-15-2009, 10:36 AM

About friggin time!

Moonliner · 01-15-2009, 10:43 AM

So does the end of don't ask don't tell mean the military will go back to booting all the gays out?

JWBear · 01-15-2009, 10:45 AM

President Obama has made it clear that he believes gays and lesbians should serve openly.

Moonliner · 01-15-2009, 10:53 AM

Without taking time to Google it...

Didn't President Clinton make pretty much the same promise (allowing gay to serve openly) but was unable to make it happen and thus we ended up with D.A.D.T.?

What's different with Obama?

Ghoulish Delight · 01-15-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Without taking time to Google it...

Didn't President Clinton make pretty much the same promise (allowing gay to serve openly) but was unable to make it happen and thus we ended up with D.A.D.T.?

What's different with Obama?

16 years. A military severely short on personnel that's had to boot out people in critical positions (such as, oh, Arabic translators) over this stupid policy. Support of people like Colin Powell. Just to name a few things.

SzczerbiakManiac · 01-15-2009, 11:11 AM

I am thoroughly unimpressed... for now. I have heard and been disappointed by this campaign promise before. I will reserve my enthusiasm until after this actually gets enacted and Congress and/or the Military stop fighting it.

Alex · 01-15-2009, 11:14 AM

Well, this one isn't a campaign promise (since the campaign is over) so I give it a bit more weight. And the political environment for it really is better than for Clinton

Moonliner · 01-15-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Well, this one isn't a campaign promise (since the campaign is over) so I give it a bit more weight. And the political environment for it really is better than for Clinton

The linked article impied that is was.

And a quick google turned up this from April of '08:

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Barack Obama said he's confident he could end the "don't ask, don't tell" policy for gays in the military, but he won't make it a criteria for serving on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

"I would never make this a litmus test for the Joint Chiefs of Staff," Obama said during an interview with The Advocate, a gay publication.

"What I want are members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who are making decisions based on what strengthens our military and what is going to make us safer, not ideology," he said.

Obama said ending the policy, which was instituted during Bill Clinton's administration, is something he could "reasonably" get done if elected.

"There's increasing recognition within the armed forces that this is a counterproductive strategy - ya know, we're spending large sums of money to kick highly qualified gays or lesbians out of our military, some of whom possess specialties like Arab-language capabilities that we desperately need. That doesn't make us more safe," he said.

Also from the article:

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since his election has made statements that gay pressure groups interpreted as lukewarm

So the statments made are to reinforce that Obama does intented to follow through with this promise, rather than a new stance for him correct?

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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	Without taking time to Google it... Didn't President Clinton make pretty much the same promise (allowing gay to serve openly) but was unable to make it happen and thus we ended up with D.A.D.T.? What's different with Obama? __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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