Animation similarities

Morrigoon · 04-05-2009, 11:10 AM

Peachykeen found this great video. It shows how the animators used some of the same shots in different Disney films:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ia5TBmY78

innerSpaceman · 04-05-2009, 12:06 PM

Interesting, but not exactly fair. All it proves is that Robin Hood is pure hackwork ... and that's been obvious for decades since it first appeared as one of the craptackiest Disney animated films ever foisted.

Morrigoon · 04-05-2009, 12:08 PM

I can't help myself... I love it. What that film is lacking in animation, it more than makes up for in charm.

LSPoorEeyorick · 04-05-2009, 02:38 PM

Ditto that. It was the Disney film that perhaps I loved the most as a child. Hackwork, stolen from prior rotoscope? Totally. Beloved? Absolutely.

Cadaverous Pallor · 04-05-2009, 03:03 PM

Ah, kids'll watch anything, and I was a kid then too, just as guilty as the rest. Too bad we were born in the 70's.

Anyone who's seen Robin Hood and Aristocats after age 15 doesn't need more proof that they are shoddily made, but it is fun to watch this comparison and shake your head in amazement that this is Disney.

The finale involving two waltzes is dumb though. They're both waltzing. That's what waltzing looks like. No way that counts as a rip off.

Gemini Cricket · 04-05-2009, 03:13 PM

Neat!
The video makes a good point. Films in that era, like Robin Hood stole from other films and gave to the poor audiences mediocre entertainment.

The piece itself is well edited. The poor editor spent a lot of time on it.

Morrigoon · 04-05-2009, 03:23 PM

Well, and the thing is, if a shot works, it works. Leonardo daVinci doesn't own the waist-up portrait, and his "unoriginal" framing takes nothing away from the mastery of the final piece. Not that I'm calling Robin Hood a masterpiece, but good framing and sequencing is good framing and sequencing. I'm sure if we tried we could find many similar sequences in boom-crash blockbuster movies.

LSPoorEeyorick · 04-05-2009, 03:29 PM

Eh, I don't care if it's shoddily made. Robin Hood is still the only anthropomorphic fox that rings my bell-el-el. Rings my bell. (My bell. Dingalingaling) my beeeeell. Rings my bell.

flippyshark · 04-05-2009, 04:34 PM

I was a little depressed to see that the Mowgli handoff chase in Jungle Book was so completely copied from the deed-chasing scene in Mr. Toad. And I'm surprised I never noticed it before. It's completely blatant.

Yeah, Robin Hood kinda bites. Some charming voice characterizations, a handful of okay gags, but on the whole, overlong and slooooow.

Cadaverous Pallor · 04-05-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

Eh, I don't care if it's shoddily made. Robin Hood is still the only anthropomorphic fox that rings my bell-el-el. Rings my bell. (My bell. Dingalingaling) my beeeeell. Rings my bell.

Ok, couldn't help myself - you got quoted.

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Originally Posted by flippyshark

I was a little depressed to see that the Mowgli handoff chase in Jungle Book was so completely copied from the deed-chasing scene in Mr. Toad. And I'm surprised I never noticed it before. It's completely blatant.

I think this chase grab stuff is directly copied from Mickey/Donald cartoons from way back.

04-05-2009, 11:10 AM	#1
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Animation similarities Peachykeen found this great video. It shows how the animators used some of the same shots in different Disney films: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ia5TBmY78 __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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04-05-2009, 12:06 PM	#2
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Interesting, but not exactly fair. All it proves is that Robin Hood is pure hackwork ... and that's been obvious for decades since it first appeared as one of the craptackiest Disney animated films ever foisted.
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04-05-2009, 12:08 PM	#3
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	I can't help myself... I love it. What that film is lacking in animation, it more than makes up for in charm. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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04-05-2009, 02:38 PM	#4
LSPoorEeyorick scribblin' Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in the moment Posts: 3,872	Ditto that. It was the Disney film that perhaps I loved the most as a child. Hackwork, stolen from prior rotoscope? Totally. Beloved? Absolutely.
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04-05-2009, 03:03 PM	#5
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Ah, kids'll watch anything, and I was a kid then too, just as guilty as the rest. Too bad we were born in the 70's. Anyone who's seen Robin Hood and Aristocats after age 15 doesn't need more proof that they are shoddily made, but it is fun to watch this comparison and shake your head in amazement that this is Disney. The finale involving two waltzes is dumb though. They're both waltzing. That's what waltzing looks like. No way that counts as a rip off.
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04-05-2009, 03:13 PM	#6
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Neat! The video makes a good point. Films in that era, like Robin Hood stole from other films and gave to the poor audiences mediocre entertainment. The piece itself is well edited. The poor editor spent a lot of time on it.
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04-05-2009, 03:23 PM	#7
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Well, and the thing is, if a shot works, it works. Leonardo daVinci doesn't own the waist-up portrait, and his "unoriginal" framing takes nothing away from the mastery of the final piece. Not that I'm calling Robin Hood a masterpiece, but good framing and sequencing is good framing and sequencing. I'm sure if we tried we could find many similar sequences in boom-crash blockbuster movies. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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04-05-2009, 03:29 PM	#8
LSPoorEeyorick scribblin' Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in the moment Posts: 3,872	Eh, I don't care if it's shoddily made. Robin Hood is still the only anthropomorphic fox that rings my bell-el-el. Rings my bell. (My bell. Dingalingaling) my beeeeell. Rings my bell.
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04-05-2009, 04:34 PM	#9
flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	I was a little depressed to see that the Mowgli handoff chase in Jungle Book was so completely copied from the deed-chasing scene in Mr. Toad. And I'm surprised I never noticed it before. It's completely blatant. Yeah, Robin Hood kinda bites. Some charming voice characterizations, a handful of okay gags, but on the whole, overlong and slooooow.
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