Schwarzeneggar Proposes to End HIV/AIDS Services

second class citizen · 06-04-2009, 10:56 PM

It's interesting to postulate just where Arnold would be today if he had contracted AIDS back during his bodybuiliding days by sharing a needle with other bodybuilders using illegal steroids (and they often did and still do). Makes you wonder where his career could have gone or even if he would have survived long enough to have one.

Come join us Friday, June 5 to protest the inhumane cuts of AIDS and HIV Services: http://stopthehivcuts.wordpress.com/

35,000 lives are at stake.

Who knows? You may not need these services yourself today, but you certainly could tomorrow.

lashbear · 06-04-2009, 11:56 PM

Despicable !!

flippyshark · 06-05-2009, 06:24 AM

What the hell! California, y'all need to re-boot your state! (Of course, I'm saying this from reactionary Florida)

LSPoorEeyorick · 06-05-2009, 07:12 AM

God, this is bull****. This ****ing state. I know we're in a budget crisis, but this is not the way to solve it.

wolfy999 · 06-05-2009, 07:45 AM

Shaking my head....this is ridiculous! Arnold seems to want to cut the things we need the most.

Cadaverous Pallor · 06-05-2009, 07:57 AM

I'm not saying this is a good idea.

But I want to ask, what should be cut?

scaeagles · 06-05-2009, 08:04 AM

I have been debating posting this because I'm going to get slammed unmercifully, I'm sure.....but why is this the responsibility of government?

Snowflake · 06-05-2009, 08:10 AM

Oh dear God, this is wrong.

JWBear · 06-05-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I have been debating posting this because I'm going to get slammed unmercifully, I'm sure.....but why is this the responsibility of government?

Why is it the responsibility of government to protect you from crime?

Why is it the responsibility of government to rescue you from your burning house and but the fire out?

Why is it the responsibility of government to make sure someone doesn't build a toxic waste dump in your backyard?

Why is it the responsibility of government to dig you out of the rubble of your home after an earthquake or rescue from your roof in a flood?

Why should the government ever protect the lives and health of its citizens? Who cares if people die; we don't know them, right?

We have made these things the responsibility of the government because the majority of Americans realize that these things are necessary in a civilized society; and that government is in the best position to provide these services equitably.

In regards to HIV/AIDS services, many of the programs being cut can not be found in the public sector. The AIDS Assistance Drug Program is one of the ones being cut. This program pays for the AIDS drugs that are the only things keeping many healthy and live. These drugs can cost thousands of dollars a month (thanks to the greedy drug companies); far out of the reach of most people. Without ADAP, many with AIDS will be forced to stop taking these life saving medications. And without medications to keep the virus at bay, they will die.

But that's not your problem, is it? Why should you care? Let them fend for themselves. And if they don't survive? Oh well. At least your taxes didn't go up! That would have been a tragedy!

scaeagles · 06-05-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

But that's not your problem, is it? Why should you care? Let them fend for themselves. And if they don't survive? Oh well. At least your taxes didn't go up! That would have been a tragedy!

Well, I did indeed get slammed.

I don't think feeding the poor is the responsibility of government, but think it's a great alternative to starvation.

I don't think funding this program is the responsibility of government, but think it's a great alternative to death from AIDS.

There are many, many things - as you pointed out - that the government does that we as a society have deemed are good things. At the state level I think that's great.

I honestly don't know....but are similar programs in CA offered for diabetics and cancer patients and other life threatening diseases?

06-04-2009, 10:56 PM	#1
second class citizen Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 135	Schwarzeneggar Proposes to End HIV/AIDS Services It's interesting to postulate just where Arnold would be today if he had contracted AIDS back during his bodybuiliding days by sharing a needle with other bodybuilders using illegal steroids (and they often did and still do). Makes you wonder where his career could have gone or even if he would have survived long enough to have one. Come join us Friday, June 5 to protest the inhumane cuts of AIDS and HIV Services: http://stopthehivcuts.wordpress.com/ 35,000 lives are at stake. Who knows? You may not need these services yourself today, but you certainly could tomorrow. __________________ An artist is someone who produces things that people don't need to have but that he, for some reason, thinks it would be a good idea to give them." - Andy Warhol
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flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	What the hell! California, y'all need to re-boot your state! (Of course, I'm saying this from reactionary Florida)
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LSPoorEeyorick scribblin' Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in the moment Posts: 3,872	God, this is bull**. This **ing state. I know we're in a budget crisis, but this is not the way to solve it.
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wolfy999 Eyes like Sapphires! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2.4 miles from Disneyland Posts: 1,523	Shaking my head....this is ridiculous! Arnold seems to want to cut the things we need the most. __________________ Diane "Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy." - George Carlin 1937-2008 DISNEY IS FINALLY PAYING ME BACK......STILL OWES ME ABOUT (oh, wait....way too much)!
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06-05-2009, 07:57 AM	#6
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	I'm not saying this is a good idea. But I want to ask, what should be cut?
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I have been debating posting this because I'm going to get slammed unmercifully, I'm sure.....but why is this the responsibility of government?
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06-05-2009, 08:10 AM	#8
Snowflake lost in the fog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7,831	Oh dear God, this is wrong.
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