Bush Says Rumsfeld Resigning, Gates to Replace Him

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

...(Clinton) did not deal with Bin Laden, etc. etc....

Not true:

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[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Not true:

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He did not deal with him in the sense that he was still around.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

He did not deal with him in the sense that he was still around.

But he did try. I'm tired of right-wingers claiming he ignored Bin Laden, which is absolutely untrue. The truth of the matter is that the Bush administration ignored him – even after being warned by the outgoing Clinton administration – until 9/11.

[Nephythys]

That's rich.

Clinton had years to get rid of Bin Laden and did NOT- Bush was in office for less than a year and you expect he was just supposed to get it done huh?

Like the Clinton administration left a freaking note "here- deal with this, we did not get it done". Then when we don't go out and "get him" right away that means they ignored it.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

That's rich.

Clinton had years to get rid of Bin Laden and did NOT- Bush was in office for less than a year and you expect he was just supposed to get it done huh?

Like the Clinton administration left a freaking note "here- deal with this, we did not get it done". Then when we don't go out and "get him" right away that means they ignored it.

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[JWBear]

And this.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

That's rich.

Clinton had years to get rid of Bin Laden and did NOT- Bush was in office for less than a year and you expect he was just supposed to get it done huh?

Like the Clinton administration left a freaking note "here- deal with this, we did not get it done". Then when we don't go out and "get him" right away that means they ignored it.

Personally I don't blame Bush for 9/11. As you say he was relatively new to the office and there were a lot of issues to deal with that I'm sure at the time seemed more pressing. What I do blame Bush for was the response.

Directly after 9/11 the United States had the support of pretty much the entire globe. The RUSSIANS let us stage troops in their territory. China turned a blind eye as we attack afghanistan. We had international NATO forces volunteering in droves for patrols over US territory. Bush took all that good will / international support and pissed it away to pursue a personal vendetta against Saddam. With the botched job he and his administration made of Iraq we now have a larger and more organized terrorist organization than we have ever faced and I'm not just talking Iraq. He's sullied the name of the United States the world over and won droves of converts to the radical Islam cause.

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

If you expect him to roll over and simply give up doing anything- you are SO wrong.

LOL- it's laughable to think he is simply going to simper to the Dems and only do what they prefer.

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Three for three...... I agree with Nephythys.

What I expect (as opposed to what I would like to see) is that Mr. Bush will play the game.

Get a room

No, I don't expect him to rollover and yes, I expect him to play the game BUT he couldn't get this guy through his own congress. He's got a better chance now? ... with the election going the way it did?

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

Get a room

No, I don't expect him to rollover and yes, I expect him to play the game BUT he couldn't get this guy through his own congress. He's got a better chance now? ... with the election going the way it did?

True.

But if he puts in someone who even he knows they won't accept- then he can put through someone else he wants who he already has in mind. The way I figure it if he chooses wisely those who oppose Bolton will be more likely to accept the next nominee.

But bottom line he will still put up the people he wants-

[Scrooge McSam]

True that. Looks like we'll be wasting some more time and generating more division. It's sad.