Tis the season...deja vu anyone?

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

While I might generally agree with Moonliner, I doubt either of you have been been first-hand targets of religious intolerance. I might agree that there's a point where sensitivity becomes over sensitivity, but it's easy to say, "It's just tradition, get over it," when you've never had a religious slur thrown your way.

I'm not saying hatred and intolerance don't exist I'm just saying they are not hiding in every Santa and Nativity scene as some would lead us to believe.

In a Christian society you are going to see more Christian symbols, just as in a Jewish state you would find more Jewish symbols.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

In a Christian society you are going to see more Christian symbols, just as in a Jewish state you would find more Jewish symbols.

Agreed. But there's a line that can be drawn, and in this country that line is at the governmental level. If the government is funding it, I think it's wrong.

[Kevy Baby]

GD

I am having a hard time taking you seriously on anything right now because of that animated GIF in your signature. That is just disturbing.

[Moonliner]

Back on the original idea...

I don't like the sign. A "holiday" tree and nativity are pretty to look at.

The sign is just ugly and based on hate. It attacks the views of others rather than promote the beliefs of it's makers.

Perhaps if they replaced it with a diorama of Newtons laws or a tree all by itself as nature made it...... That would be better.

[Deebs]

Originally Posted by Bornieo: Fully Loaded

There are numbers, words and links in the OP. Can someone translate , I don't wanna read all that...

Um, remember? Wendy told SD that we are all real smart here. Play along, wouldja?

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by Deebs

Um, remember? Wendy told SD that we are all real smart here. Play along, wouldja?

This look funny VDM

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Snowflake

This look funny VDM

I are an English Major

[Sir Dillon]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Back on the original idea...

I don't like the sign. A "holiday" tree and nativity are pretty to look at

The sign is just ugly and based on hate.

How are general statements about religion (note there was no particular religion specifically mentioned or referenced within the context of the sign), that are far more easily substantiated by facts than the fiction used to rationalize religious dogma, be "based on hate"?

To state that there are "no gods, no devils, no angels..." and that "religion is but myth and susperstitions" is no more hateful than stating there is "no santa clause, easter bunny, or tooth fairy" and all "are but myth and fairytales."

The statements expressed on that sign are pretty innocuous when juxtaposed to some of the real "hate speech" found in the KJV Bible and Koran, for example.

It attacks the views of others rather than promote the beliefs of it's makers.

The statements made do not attach the views of others since only general statements are being made; views that express "the beliefs of its makers."

Are they not equally entitled to their public opinions just as religious believers are?

Perhaps we should just simply turn the clock back to the days when anyone who expresses view points contrary to religion (any religion) are charged with heresy and summarily imprisoned, submitted to an inquisition, and/or executed?

S.D.

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Originally Posted by Deebs

Um, remember? Wendy told SD that we are all real smart here. Play along, wouldja?

I can only pretend for so long...

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Sir Dillon

How are general statements about religion (note there was no particular religion specifically mentioned or referenced within the context of the sign), that are far more easily substantiated by facts than the fiction used to rationalize religious dogma, be "based on hate"?

To state that there are "no gods, no devils, no angels..." and that "religion is but myth and susperstitions" is no more hateful than stating there is "no santa clause, easter bunny, or tooth fairy" and all "are but myth and fairytales."

The statements expressed on that sign are pretty innocuous when juxtaposed to some of the real "hate speech" found in the KJV Bible and Koran, for example.



The statements made do not attach the views of others since only general statements are being made; views that express "the beliefs of its makers."

Are they not equally entitled to their public opinions just as religious believers are?

Perhaps we should just simply turn the clock back to the days when anyone who expresses view points contrary to religion (any religion) are charged with heresy and summarily imprisoned, submitted to an inquisition, and/or executed?

S.D.

Oh pish posh, hide behind semantics all you want. The sign was made to piss people off and grab a few headlines. That's it.

I would be a much better statement if, like I said previously, it had a some charm and personality, some colorful lights perhaps or a fluffy bunny.