Congresswoman shot in head

[Not Afraid]

He listed all sorts of books as favorites - including Alice in Wonderland. But, his statement about the government wanting to control our minds through grammar is a bit odd, to say the least.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

But, his statement about the government wanting to control our minds through grammar is a bit odd, to say the least.

Some are saying he was a follower of this guy.

[JWBear]

I'm getting sick and tired of the right claiming Loughner was a "leftie" because he read Mein Kampf! Nazi's were right-wing! What uninformed idiots!

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I'm getting sick and tired of the right claiming Loughner was a "leftie" because he read Mein Kampf! Nazi's were right-wing! What uninformed idiots!

I'm sick and tired of anyone making this a political issue: it was a mass murder. Yes, some ties can be made to political issues, but first and foremost, this guy is a nutjob and just killed six and wounded 14.

This is not about politics - it is about mental illness.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I'm sick and tired of anyone making this a political issue: it was a mass murder. Yes, some ties can be made to political issues, but first and foremost, this guy is a nutjob and just killed six and wounded 14.

This is not about politics - it is about mental illness.

I completely agree. The Nazi thing is just one of my historical pet peeves.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I'm sick and tired of anyone making this a political issue: it was a mass murder. Yes, some ties can be made to political issues, but first and foremost, this guy is a nutjob and just killed six and wounded 14.

I agree, but also find there is political enough of an angle to perhaps have some good come out of it, hopefully in terms of lowering the temperature of political rhetoric. I mean, you can hardly imagine Sharon Angle speaking of "2nd Amendment remedies" tomorrow, huh? Or Sarah Palin now posting Congressperson's names along with a map of cross-hairs, and tweeting "Resist and Reload."

Not surprisingly, I suppose, I completely agree with every word of this rather brilliant rant.

[3894]

This article on Stochastic Terrorism might be of interest.

"Stochastic terrorism is the use of mass communications to stir up random lone wolves to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable.

This is what occurs when Bin Laden releases a video that stirs random extremists halfway around the globe to commit a bombing or shooting.

This is also the term for what Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, and others do. And this is what led directly and predictably to a number of cases of ideologically-motivated murder similar to the Tucson shootings."

[CoasterMatt]

I also would like to point out, that Obama himself did some of this boneheaded, ugly stuff by saying "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun"

This guy was a nutjob- just like Oswald, just like Bremer, just like Hinckley.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by CoasterMatt

I also would like to point out, that Obama himself did some of this boneheaded, ugly stuff by saying "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun"

This guy was a nutjob- just like Oswald, just like Bremer, just like Hinckley.

Is that really the best the right can come up with? Really?

He was quoting from the movie The Untouchables. He was using it as a metaphor on how to counter Republican vitriol and attack ads. A metaphor that no one on the left took literally. It is nowhere near the same as using gun cross-hairs on a map targeting specific people; Sharon Angle's "Second Amendment Remedies; or countless other examples of violent right-wing rhetoric that is cheered and applauded by millions of gun, flag, and sign waiving Republicans.

God, I hate false equivalencies!

[CoasterMatt]

All I'm saying is there's stupid rhetoric from BOTH sides of the political spectrum...