News- no, it's propoganda

[BarTopDancer]

It's everyone's problem when you do nothing but post contriversial things and then claim poor me when people call you on it. That is behavior of a troll.

Oh ya, and your non-replies are replies.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Okay, can we please stay on topic?

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Okay, can we please stay on topic?

Sorry. I'll behave.

Or go back to work.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Okay, can we please stay on topic?

yup-

I found some of the comments in that article I posted very interesting- that residential areas have gone untouched by Israeli attacks- so Hezbollah comes in and fires rockets from there- seemingly in order to get Israel to launch against their position KNOWING civilians may be hurt or killed.

They are willing to murder their own people to destroy Israel and it seems like the people do nothing to stop them or protect themselves- yes, they leave where they can- but I would not put it past this group to not allow escape. Not if their deaths helps their PR campaign.

[Disneyphile]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Self-righteous?

Yes. Two sides who think they both have the sole right to the land because they are "holy" or "God/Allah intended for them to have it". Although, they keep blasting holes in it, so I suppose there really is no denying that it's "hol(e)y".

Personally, I wish an earthquake would occur that would sink that plot of dirt into the ocean (ideally with enough warning to vacate everyone first), in hopes it would resolve the centuries' old problem. But, nonetheless, I wouldn't be surprised if they started fighting over something else, just because they feel it's their "right" to do so.

[Ponine]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Self-righteous?

I take it you dont see any of this as self-righteous?

[LSPoorEeyorick]

I don't actually care if they're photographing the dead children in sixteen different locations. Journalistically responsible? Not at all. But really, I don't care.

What matters to me is that there are dead children and war is s h i t t y and I'd rather a gigantic wall be put around the holy lands so that nobody has the right to them anymore.

I'm not happy with Hezbollah for kidnapping those Israelis, but the Israelis captured Lebanese first. This is war; soldiers and civilians are captured. And it doesn't matter who does it first if you're both doing it: responding in kind doesn't make you better, it makes you equally bad.

Look at us: we've got civilians in Gitmo and I'm pissed with us, too. And I'd be pissed if somebody purposefully captured Americans to force an exchange, and I'd be pissed if the US attacked civilians in the country of the captors in response.

Basically: I'm pissed. And this is why I don't post in the political threads as much as I used to. Because blood pressure increases with every stupid violent country or every stupid politician or every stupid "surprise! dead bodies"-- and that's just not how I want to spend my time.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

and it seems like the people do nothing to stop them or protect themselves-

In 1948, Palestinian civilians fled the West Bank and Gaza to protect themselves...which Israel used as an excuse to seize those territories as part of the cease fire agreement. So is it any wonder why they've been a bit hesitant to flee since?

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Ponine

I take it you dont see any of this as self-righteous?

No- DP knew what I was asking. I wanted her to clarify- which she did.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

I'm not happy with Hezbollah for kidnapping those Israelis, but the Israelis captured Lebanese first.

I am aware they are holding prisoners, but I am not aware of Israeli incursions into Lebanon to capture Lebanese citizens....or did I miss something major?

I do not hold the Israelis at fault at all. They have agreed to cease fire after cease fire after cease fire and all it has done is given their terrorist eneimies time to restock their weapons. They agree to give 97% of the land demanded by Arafat, and Arafat refused.

If terrorists choose to hide behind women and children, it is the fault of the terrorists when the women and children die, not those who are trying to kill the terrorists.