The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Prudence]

Oh, you're all just a bunch of degenerates.

[CoasterMatt]

Originally Posted by Prudence

Oh, you're all just a bunch of degenerates.

That's the sweetest thing anybody's typed to me all day...

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Prudence

Oh, you're all just a bunch of degenerates.

HEH- at least we are in good company.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by CoasterMatt

That's the sweetest thing anybody's typed to me all day...

Hey Matt:

Stevia rebaudiana

[Nephythys]

Kerry is a fvckin idiot who can't take responsiblity for his own words

Yeah you doofus- it's a Republican smear to point out that you are an insulting gasbag.

God he is loathsome.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Is it the witching hour already?

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Kerry is a fvckin idiot who can't take responsiblity for his own words

Yeah you doofus- it's a Republican smear to point out that you are an insulting gasbag.

God he is loathsome.

And he didn't do that well at Yale, which I guess is why he wound up in Viet Nam. Unlike . . . well the list on both sides of the aisle is endless.

While he was making a questionable joke, I think he touched on the very real ambivalence that people with educational ambitions harbor about dangerous working class jobs. Whether it's the military, building bridges or collecting the garbage, we respect the people who do them while at the same time urging our children to get an education so they don't have to do them.

I think that while some people certainly say they join to serve their country, most join for want of other opportunity, a limitation that is often due to educational failings. The military today is what the clergy was for the second sons of 19th century literature.

[Nephythys]

Sorry- it was no joke. He's an idiot- like a little kid who says something stupid and hurtful and then tries to pass it off as a "joke".

Even John McCain whom I do not like much says Kerry should be apologizing- he does not see it as a joke.

As if serving in Vietnam makes you an untouchable saint who can say anything stupid you like and then blame it on anyone else-

He's a sad pathetic man- and I hope he tries to run in 2008. I can laugh for months.

[Gn2Dlnd]

The Massachusetts senator, who is considering another presidential run in 2008, had opened his speech at Pasadena City College with several one-liners, joking at one point that Bush had lived in Texas but now "lives in a state of denial."

Then he said: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Hey, I know you're on a roll, so, go ahead, have fun, but, for anyone who didn't read TFA, the "joke" appears to have been directed at GW, not the troops. Knock yourself out.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Sorry- it was no joke. He's an idiot- like a little kid who says something stupid and hurtful and then tries to pass it off as a "joke".

Even John McCain whom I do not like much says Kerry should be apologizing- he does not see it as a joke.

As if serving in Vietnam makes you an untouchable saint who can say anything stupid you like and then blame it on anyone else-

He's a sad pathetic man- and I hope he tries to run in 2008. I can laugh for months.

That's fine. Kerry shouldn't make fun of people in the military. However, right wing non-combatants like Pat Buchanan and Joe Scarborough who get all giggly when they talk about military culture don't strike the right note either. The military is not a fourth branch of government. I'd take all this Republican bowing down to our fighting men and women a lot more seriously if they called for a draft or compulsory military service. Without that, military service is just another dirty job to be done by people who are not quite like us.