Bond ... James Bond

[innerSpaceman]

New Bond. New Bond movie. Discuss.



(or rather, continue to discuss .... but please do it here, rather than in the movie musics thread. Otherise, we have an entire forum going to waste. Old movies there, new movies -- each with their own thread -- here.)

[Alex]

Out of curiosity, why is the Random Movie Musings thread over there instead of in this forum? How does being random musings about movies make it not a movie thread? Not that it really matters, I've just always wondered.

Anyway, I think about Bond much the same as you said in the other thread. That not only is the 007 number something acquired by a sequence of agents but also the name. Same with M.

[innerSpaceman]

From the other thread:

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Early word that I'm hearing on Casino Royale is that is a mess. The verdict is split from there on whether it is a fun mess or just a mess.

As for Battle Royale I don't see anything particularly Japanese in its weirdness. I think we have produced equally odd things in this country and others (Shaun of the Dead is more overtly comedic but I think touches on several similar nerves and combines styles similarly).

The socio-economic mileau which drives the movie's initial setup is uniquely Japanese, but it is a country that has gone through some significant cultural and economic upheavals over the last century, but beyond that I don't see much uniquely Japanese in its execution.

I tried to read the manga on which the movie is based but didn't care for the artwork and eventually drifted away.

[innerSpaceman]

Then:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

"Casino Royale"
I liked it. It attempts to make Bond more believable.
Daniel Craig is hot. Hot hot hot.

[innerSpaceman]

To which I replied:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Ooooh, how did you see a pre-release of CR, GC?


I'm really glad they've returned to the hot Bonds. Sorry, but Brosnon and Moore did nothing for me. James Bond needs to be smouldering.


Basically, I need to be stirred ... not skaken.

[innerSpaceman]

And ...

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

I really liked the Bond film. Here's my caveat: I don't see a lot of action films, I LOVE Bond, I don't expect a tight story and plausible sequences, and I know all of the Bond films and his history to appreciate the little references.

Daniel Craig is a different sort of Bond. He's beefy, and muscled - almost too much so - but he's rough around the edges. He pulls off the suave but his athletic scenes are great and over the top.

There are few gadgets - but, remember, this is supposed to be EARLY Bond, just after his promotion. He gets much more emotionally involved that any other Bond except in OHMSS (the only film where he gets married). I can see how Bond developed from this point into the Bond we all know and love.

[innerSpaceman]

Finally ...

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I'm off to see it in a couple of hours. I like how we have Judi Dench as "M" - continuing her role, but have Craig as Bond just acquiring Double Oh status and having his first mission as such, in the present day. This goes along with the way I've groked having so many different actors in the role, and yet each remaining pretty much the same age as a sexy ladies man over a span of 40 years.

I think of them each as new agents acquiring the name and number when the last Bond retires (or exits more permanently). I just can't go along with the notion that Bond is ageless, and has these periodic face changes and strong personality shifts.

This one pretty much departs from that retardedness by having this be Bond's first mission. It gels with my notion of the series, and I appreciate that fact going in.

Review to follow. (Perhaps at 4 o'clock this morning!)

Now we're caught up. And not only does Alex's first post here make more sense now, his position about where the Movie Musings thread belongs has made sense all along.


And since I was stymied in legit efforts to move individual posts here (having to resort to quoting, bah) ... I'm going to use my pent-up moderator energy to finally move that thread where it has always belonged.



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[Not Afraid]

I NEED some other people to see the film because I have some plot questions.

But, it appears I WILL be seeing it again with my husband - or I'll send him on a date with Fej.

[Alex]

I might end up seeing it tomorrow. But it is a busy weekend at the movies (Happy Feet, For Your Consideration, Fast Food Nation, plus Babel and A Good Year) so I may pick something else.

But push come to shove I'll probably end up at the action movie.

[innerSpaceman]

Definitely seeing Happy Feet.






Then, I'll start a thread about it.





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