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Old 03-03-2005, 05:46 PM   #61
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I have oft vacillated on the issue at hand. I used a big word, but now I'm not sure if I spelled it right, so I could look stupid right now. Oh, well.

I have never consider the act of killing to be equivalent to the act of murder. Murder involves lawlessness and typically malice. Killing in and of itself does not. As ISM pointed out, killing in self defense is often a necessity. There are many such examples, none of which are pleasant to think about, but many, many are necessary and justifyable.

That being said, I see the death penalty not as being lawless, though many disagree with the law. I disagree with a lot of laws. I do not think the death penalty in the current form is acceptable. I do not think, however, that we want to get into games of comparing what we do here in America to other countries, as there are things throughout the world that are not in line what what we do here. For example, I believe that the US is one of only 5 countries that permits abortion with basically no restrictions. Does this mean we should change this law because our views are out of line with most of the rest of the world? I would suspect most here would say no. What the rest of the world has to say about it sways me not.

Sadly, the justice system in America has gone the way of the Sophists in Greece, particularly in high profile cases. You couldn't pay me enough to follow (though not a death penalty case) the Michael Jackson trial. Didn't care to follow Scott Peterson or OJ, either.

I suppose that's a big, big way of saying that I am still not sure what I think about it. It would seem to me in particularly eggregious cases, such as will be the case with the recently apprehended BTK killer, it would be warranted and even desirable.
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Old 03-21-2005, 02:05 PM   #63
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Iranian serial killer flogged, stabbed and hanged in public

Wed Mar 16, 9:28 AM ET Mideast - AFP



PAKDASHT, Iran (AFP) - An Iranian serial killer convicted of kidnapping and murdering 21 people, most of them little boys, was publicly flogged and hanged south of Tehran before thousands of spectators.

Mohammad Bijeh, branded "the vampire of the desert" in the Iranian press, was lashed 100 times, stabbed in the back by a furious brother of one victim before a blue nylon rope was placed around his neck by the mother of another murdered child.


The 22-year-old killer, who remained calm and kept silent throughout the punishment, was then hauled into the air by a crane to cries from the crowd of "make him twist".


"Dance and think of what you did to our kids," shouted one father, as Bijeh was throttled to death over several minutes. Hanging by a crane does not involve the neck being broken.


Few tears were shed during the hanging. Instead, the crowd vented its rage.


"Hit him harder, the b*stard," yelled Ali Khosravi, whose 10-year-old son Kayvan was killed and then burned by Bijeh.


Bijeh also reportedly ate the leg of his one of his victims just to see what it tasted like.


"This is the best day of my life. I would like to strangle him and burn him myself," added Khosravi as stood holding the hand of his eight-year-old daughter Sarah.
There's a deterrent.
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