Reaction to DCA artwork

[DreadPirateRoberts]

I'm looking forward to the return of the flying saucers.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

But I guess that the park will forever remain worthless if you're of the mindset that "no matter what they do, the park is unfixable short of leveling the f*cker." (Of course, my requisite confusion with IsM's mindset might just be because I'm trying to figure out the mindset of someone whose mindset is unfigureoutable, lol)

It is not unfigureoutable: just realize that that mind automatically begins with the premise that everything sucks and sometimes comes around to things being okay (not always - just sometimes). That mind is old and curmudgeonly. If you know that going in and learn to just smile and nod and go about your day, life becomes simpler.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

And here, there is a thematic shift as to "Walt Disney's California" (emphasis on the Walt Disney) from "A Celebration of California In General (*just add whoopi)". It's a mindset of having a Disney Adventure rather than visiting a park about California in California. Is it the greatest idea ever? No. HOWEVER -- it directly addresses the "who wants to visit a park about California in California?" issue.

Walt Disney's California??? How so?

Oh, I agree the entry will be Walt Disney's California ... and it looks to be quite charming and appealing.

I suppose you could even say the Hollywood Street is Walt Disney's California. By making absolutely no change to it. That's ok, I think the street is pretty as is. But the "studio" area, even with it's recent facelift, is dreadfully ugly. And Tower of Terror might as well be in Shanghai if they are going to leave that area a dead end (where the weinie disappears from view once you get to the land where it's located).


What has the rest of the park got to do with Walt Disney's California, and moreover, what is Disney doing to tie in any of those areas with Walt Disney?

Sure, the High Sierras existed while Walt lived in Los Angeles. Ya know what? - he even wanted to have a resort in the Mineral King area of Sierra National Park, with the County Bear Jamboree as an attraction. Is there any planned tie-in to the legitimate Walt-connection of DCA's High Sierra area??? None that I've heard of.


Seaside amusement parks? What's the Walt connection? Walt HATED them - that's the Walt connection!!


Pixar-Land? What's the POSSIBLE Walt connection?? Even if you accept Cars Land as Route 66 Land ... what the heck is the Walt connection? That Route 66 existed in California while Walt lived in California? WTF?


I'm not buying the Walt Disneys' California bit.


But I'll agree with Cherny that making DCA far less ugly will go far in making it a much more pleasant place to hang out.


It'll still be a park about California IN California, with less emphasis on California while all its lands continue to evoke California - - and barely distinguishable from present-day California.


But when I think back to when I used to hang out more in DCA, it was because there were things there I liked to do and see. Better restaurants, The Power of Blast, the Eureka Parade. Those had nothing to do with how pretty or ugly DCA was. But I will prefer prettier, of course.

[Gemini Cricket]

Oh, and they should add shaded areas to the park, too.

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

What has the rest of the park got to do with Walt Disney's California, and moreover, what is Disney doing to tie in any of those areas with Walt Disney?

I meant the man AND the incarnations of what his creations wrought, not just the man himself. It's a park about having Disney Adventures, rather than California Adventures... which is where the park appeared to be headed from day 1. I'm not going to rehash the bad ol' days

But when I think back to when I used to hang out more in DCA, it was because there were things there I liked to do and see. Better restaurants, The Power of Blast, the Eureka Parade. Those had nothing to do with how pretty or ugly DCA was. But I will prefer prettier, of course.

I didn't quote a lot of what you wrote but it doesn't seem like you're as totally opposed to the ideas as you made it out to be in your first post that I responded to.

HOWEVER, your last paragraph (above) which I quoted sort of negates the whole "worthlessness" argument. Having more things to do and see will either enhance the value of the park or it will not (due to the crappy theme, or for whatever reason). You can't have it both ways. (Did I actually just say that sentence to IsM? lmao)

[Alex]

I'm in the camp that it sounds mostly like a face lift with one new e-ticket.


I'm not really down on DCA to begin with but I'm not seeing a big boost here any more than adding a bug's land was anything massively significant (it made it better but it was incremental).

Walt Disney as a character isn't going to fly with anything but a core of hardcore fans, the average Disney park visitor really could barely care less so it is probably best that this be just an "essence" rather than actual focus of theming.

I doubt it will fundamentally change the performance of DCA as a separate park. But that is simply because I don't think you're going to be able to have two separate park admissions 80 feet away from each other where this is such an extreme cultural disparity between them.

If that ever comes it will come with time, not so much with physical improvement.

[mousepod]

"Walt Disney as a character..." Now there's the missing piece! Would he be a face character or would they manufacture a Walt head so it looks the same at all times?

[Gemini Cricket]

Oh please please please... no face character of Walt!

[Disneyphile]

I think they should just rename it to Walt Disney Studios Park that would actually encompass everything.

[innerSpaceman]

In reading Al's Update of today, it seems the Cars Land is going to have an entrance near the Tower of Terror, finally bringing an end to that lame dead end.

Heheh, the giant weinie will work from Raditor Springs, but still not from Hollywood. But at least there will be a flow of traffic past it. Yes, an improvement.

Cars Land will also be a major improvement if the buttes of the Radiator Springs territory block out the Anaheim Convention Center and other such realworld intrusions.


The big news is indeed Cars Land. Everything else is just a prettier version of what already exists.