On-Star: Knows where you've been. - Page 3

Moonliner · 12-06-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by katiesue

I dated a cop in the 80's and my best friend's mom was a highway patrol dispatcher. This has all been common forever. Her mom would always "check out" her dates.

And that makes you want to make MORE data available to these people?

I'm sorry, I just don't get that.

katiesue · 12-06-2007, 03:27 PM

It really doesn't bother me that if somoene wanted to look me up they could get information. Maybe someone has, maybe someone is right now? Any information they got would be boring as heck.

Alex · 12-06-2007, 03:28 PM

Almost everything we do leave a transaction record. That will continue to be the case and I don't really want to go back to the technology where that won't be the case.

Every transaction record, if stored, will end up being available to government review with warrant/subpoena and I am ok with that. You're free to not buy an On-Star enabled car. If enough people refuse to buy the service because of records that are stored, then On-Star will stop storing the records. I wouldn't support the government requiring On-Star to keep records such as those, but I don't have a problem with the government being able to subpoena them if they exist.

sleepyjeff · 12-06-2007, 03:32 PM

Character: "Doing the right thing when no one is looking"

So what is it called when you're doing the right thing when everyone is looking?

lashbear · 12-06-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by katiesue

Data mining doesn't bother me at all. If my gps could tell the supermarket that I'm almost there and my fridge could tell the gps to tell the market I'm out of eggs and they would be waiting for me at checkstand 3 I'd be all over it.

JWBear · 12-06-2007, 03:50 PM

I still think this is much ado about nothing. OnStar, by its own admission, does not keep track of your vehicle's whereabouts.

Stan4dSteph · 12-06-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Almost everything we do leave a transaction record. That will continue to be the case and I don't really want to go back to the technology where that won't be the case.

Every transaction record, if stored, will end up being available to government review with warrant/subpoena and I am ok with that. You're free to not buy an On-Star enabled car. If enough people refuse to buy the service because of records that are stored, then On-Star will stop storing the records. I wouldn't support the government requiring On-Star to keep records such as those, but I don't have a problem with the government being able to subpoena them if they exist.

That's my opinion on the subject as well.

MouseWife · 12-06-2007, 04:27 PM

Oh, I love OnStar!! {and with a name like MouseWife, ya know I got nothin' to hide!}

I don't have it on my car, but, my husband has it on his. Wow, what a comfort it has been when we've needed it. In the mountains, we came upon an accident, no cell phone coverage. On Star is satellite and so we got through and reported it. We didn't have a clue where we were but they zeroed in on our location.

We've reported accidents, backwards freeway drivers, asked for directions, had our vehicle checked, found locations of the local dealer {great for when out of town and aren't familiar}.

I wish that my Escape had what my husbands' Ion has. It is the only thing we are missing when on road trips. That and his radio, not Sirius but...

Anywho, yes, I am amazed at the information they can get and how they can find things out. The missing persons cases solved, the murders solved, what about the people lost on Mt. Hood? What we need are batteries that don't die so quickly {or people to remember to charge them...or carry a spare on such trips?}

I do understand not wanting the government to know our info. But, like was said, you take the good and you take the bad.

And, we've never received any spam in the two years we've had it.

Ghoulish Delight · 12-06-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MouseWife

you take the good and you take the bad.

Oh, you will rot in hell for this.

You take the good, you take the bad,
you take them both and there you have
The facts of life, the facts of life.

MouseWife · 12-06-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Oh, you will rot in hell for this.

You take the good, you take the bad,
you take them both and there you have
The facts of life, the facts of life.

LOL Now that's where I got it from! Toot! Tootie!!

12-06-2007, 03:27 PM	#22
katiesue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,678	It really doesn't bother me that if somoene wanted to look me up they could get information. Maybe someone has, maybe someone is right now? Any information they got would be boring as heck. __________________ My life is so exciting I can hardly stand it.
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12-06-2007, 03:28 PM	#23
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Almost everything we do leave a transaction record. That will continue to be the case and I don't really want to go back to the technology where that won't be the case. Every transaction record, if stored, will end up being available to government review with warrant/subpoena and I am ok with that. You're free to not buy an On-Star enabled car. If enough people refuse to buy the service because of records that are stored, then On-Star will stop storing the records. I wouldn't support the government requiring On-Star to keep records such as those, but I don't have a problem with the government being able to subpoena them if they exist.
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12-06-2007, 03:32 PM	#24
sleepyjeff Go Hawks Go! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parkrose Posts: 2,632	Character: "Doing the right thing when no one is looking" So what is it called when you're doing the right thing when everyone is looking? __________________ River Guardian-less
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12-06-2007, 03:50 PM	#26
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	I still think this is much ado about nothing. OnStar, by its own admission, does not keep track of your vehicle's whereabouts. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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12-06-2007, 04:27 PM	#28
MouseWife Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Da' Beach Posts: 2,957	Oh, I love OnStar!! {and with a name like MouseWife, ya know I got nothin' to hide!} I don't have it on my car, but, my husband has it on his. Wow, what a comfort it has been when we've needed it. In the mountains, we came upon an accident, no cell phone coverage. On Star is satellite and so we got through and reported it. We didn't have a clue where we were but they zeroed in on our location. We've reported accidents, backwards freeway drivers, asked for directions, had our vehicle checked, found locations of the local dealer {great for when out of town and aren't familiar}. I wish that my Escape had what my husbands' Ion has. It is the only thing we are missing when on road trips. That and his radio, not Sirius but... Anywho, yes, I am amazed at the information they can get and how they can find things out. The missing persons cases solved, the murders solved, what about the people lost on Mt. Hood? What we need are batteries that don't die so quickly {or people to remember to charge them...or carry a spare on such trips?} I do understand not wanting the government to know our info. But, like was said, you take the good and you take the bad. And, we've never received any spam in the two years we've had it. __________________ Summa' time....when the livins' easy.........
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