Indy Marathon - Sunday 5/18

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Was he really supposed to have held onto the outside of the sub? I assumed he made it inside somehow.

Nope, he lashes himself to the periscope with his whip and rides the couple of hundred (not thousands) of miles to a Mediterranean island. There's a long shot of the sub approaching the island, and you can see Indy on the periscope if you look. The dialogue, in German, indicates that they're going to maintain periscope depth ... but it's a very poorly edited sequence leaving viewers wondering how Indy survives a submarine voyage on the outside of a submarine. Even if they were to illustate it better, the sequence is the most preposterous in the film.

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Anyone notice the bouncing rock in Raiders? When Marion and Indy escape the Well of Souls, they push a large rock to get out and when it falls, the shadow shows the large rock bouncing away.

Yes, one of my favorite errors. There are a few other continuity mistakes where things fall apart on camera, but are "restored" in subsequent shots. And I love the hand-made mistake of the cobra reflection in the glass separator, and wish they hadn't "cleaned" that up for the DVD release. Bah.

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I may be the only one who despises the River Phoenix flashback. I hate those kinds of hokey origin scenes where everything is explained by a single event (whip, scar, snakes, hat, lame). You start to expect young Indy to fall into an icy cold river and be forced to skin a cow, tan its hide, and make a jacket to survive.

HAHAHAHAHA!!

[Gemini Cricket]

I seem to remember another goof up with the staff of Ra. He drops it into the hole and it hits the floor. As he climbs down the rope made from flags, the staff is leaning up against a wall. But it's been awhile since I've seen the film...

[Alex]

Not to mention that in reality pre-WWII diesel submarines could run submerged for only short distances and did their long distance travel surfaced. So staying on wouldn't have been difficult. Even if they had decided to travel all the way there submerged but periscope up they'd have had to resurface about every 60 miles to recharge batteries.

Not being seen by the watch posted outside when surfaced would have been at least as difficult as hanging on in the first place.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I seem to remember another goof up with the staff of Ra. He drops it into the hole and it hits the floor. As he climbs down the rope made from flags, the staff is leaning up against a wall.

Ooooh, I'll have to watch for that. If I find a new error that I've never notice before, I'll be happy and amazed.


Oh, the big error in Temple of Doom was casting Kate Capshaw just because the director had the misguided hots for her.

Though I will say that her performance gets better in the last third when all she's required to do is scream. She's a great screamer, up there with Fay Wray!

If it weren't for Short Round, that film would have precious few redeeming qualities.


But after the marathon, I think I like it better than Last Crusade, which was decidedly meh in every way. The character interplay between Ford and Connery and even with Alison Doody is terrific. But the proceedings are otherwise lackluster in some way that I can't quite quantify.



It never occurred to me till yesterday, but how are they going to account for Indiana Jones being IMMORTAL in the new film (having drunk from the Holy Grail in the last one)??

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

It never occurred to me till yesterday, but how are they going to account for Indiana Jones being IMMORTAL in the new film (having drunk from the Holy Grail in the last one)??

You're immortal until you pass the seal in the hall, I think. That's why the knight was there and still alive.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

It never occurred to me till yesterday, but how are they going to account for Indiana Jones being IMMORTAL in the new film (having drunk from the Holy Grail in the last one)??

I thought that only held as long as you did not cross the portal.

Indy's dad was healed while in the cave so he stayed healed but if he was shot after leaving.....

What GC said.


Damn faster typist.

[Kevy Baby]

For those not aware of it, IMDB features a pretty good listing of goofs, mistakes, continuity errors, etc. for most every movie in their database.

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[mousepod]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

But after the marathon, I think I like it better than Last Crusade, which was decidedly meh in every way.

Welcome to the dark side, my friend.

If Indy fever is still going after the release of Crystal Skull, there'll be a Casa de Mousepod Screening© of some of the peripheral Indy stuff (TV Specials, a Young Indy episode or two...) plus Gunga Din and some Republic serials...

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

You're immortal until you pass the seal in the hall, I think. That's why the knight was there and still alive.

That's what we surmised, but is it ever said outright in the film?

Yesterday was also the first time I was highly amused by the Templar Knight's sad and pathetic wave of good-bye to Indy and Co. when he realizes no one will be staying behind to take over his role as immortal guardian of the grail.

LSP and Tom noted it would have been a much better ending for Sean Connery to have had his immortality depend on staying on the far side of the seal and fullfilling his life-long Grail obsession by become Guardian of the Grail ... forever.

Originally Posted by mousepod

If Indy fever is still going after the release of Crystal Skull, there'll be a Casa de Mousepod Screening© of some of the peripheral Indy stuff (TV Specials, a Young Indy episode or two...) plus Gunga Din and some Republic serials...

Oooh, I'd love it. I've got permanent Indy Fever!

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

That's what we surmised, but is it ever said outright in the film?

KNIGHT
You have chosen wisely. But the
Grail cannot pass beyond the
Great Seal. That is the boundary
and the price of immortality.