Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull [use spoiler tags, please] - Page 8

flippyshark · 05-23-2008, 08:17 PM

My "day later" feelings are that I really had a pleasant time watching it, but it's such candy floss, I'm already forgetting a lot about it.

As to lashbears misgivings about CG stunts and sets, a big amen from me, but that's the way of things now. Indy 4 is obviously guilty as charged, but hardly the worst offender. (It wasn't Jerry Bruckheimer ridiculous.) But I can't help thinking that one day, a studio or director will do something truly "the old fashioned way" and make some major bucketloads of money. (And what if it was something original, not a franchise extension of any kind. There has to be a next big thing coming along someday, unrelated to any existing comic book, movie or TV series. Such hopes keep me going during the rough patches.)

NickO'Time · 05-23-2008, 10:40 PM

Spoiler:

Gemini Cricket · 05-24-2008, 11:28 AM

About $31 million on Friday...

innerSpaceman · 05-24-2008, 12:43 PM

The Bond films do all their stunts the old-fashioned way, and no one notices. I don't see the impetus to keep doing that. Everyone assumes most unrealistic things are done with CGI ... even when they're not.

As for Indy 4's GGI laden-effects ... I have to admit I liked them better than the truly awful photographic effects in the old series (they had particular trouble with airplanes in both sequels) and prefered the CGI-enhanced locations to the horrible switch to fake backlot from grand outdoors in both sequels.

Anyway, keep in mind a mine car jumping the tracks to land squarely on ... the tracks after a leap of 400 feet, or a wingless plane passing a car inside a tunnel, or an inflatable raft falling from a plane, careening down a mountain, falling over a cliff and landing in a river without any harm to the occupants.

I can't believe I'm defending this crap. Actually, I hate it. But it's nothing new in Indy World. Complaints at this point are rather meaningless.

If you'd hoped for a return to the comparatively gritty realism of Raiders of the Lost Ark, you haven't been paying attention to the talent arcs of Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.

flippyshark · 05-24-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Anyway, keep in mind a mine car jumping the tracks to land squarely on ... the tracks after a leap of 400 feet, or a wingless plane passing a car inside a tunnel, or an inflatable raft falling from a plane, careening down a mountain, falling over a cliff and landing in a river without any harm to the occupants.

Yeah, all of those things made me roll my eyes. I'm not especially complaining about the presence of such silliness in the current Indy. I've learned to expect it. But if a Raiders-gritty style film did come along, oh what a happy boy I'd be. If Indy four had been that movie, my opinion wouldn't be "pleasant diversion," it would be "I am so happy to be alive right now." (That's how Raiders made me feel.) May never happen again, I know.

BarTopDancer · 05-24-2008, 03:21 PM

I loved it.

Replying to GCs original spoiler:

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Originally Posted by GC

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Oh and

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Promo-Man · 05-24-2008, 04:02 PM

Went today. I wanted to be entertained and I was. I enjoyed it

innerSpaceman · 05-24-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by flippyshark

But if a Raiders-gritty style film did come along, oh what a happy boy I'd be. If Indy four had been that movie, my opinion wouldn't be "pleasant diversion," it would be "I am so happy to be alive right now." (That's how Raiders made me feel.) May never happen again, I know.

Well, I felt happy to be alive after that first screening of Indy 4. It was no Raiders of the Lost Ark, but I felt pleased with the spirit of the proceedings, and I've since become disenchanted with most of the details.

I've a feeling this one will go down with The Last Crusade, or even Return of the Jedi, with films I was cheered greatly by in spirit when I first saw them ... but now don't care to watch.

Well ... if anything .... a third so-so Indiana Jones film just more firmly fixes Raiders of the Lost Ark in the highest heights of the cinema firmament.

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Hey, considering how many LoT swankers are seeing Indy 4 in 4 hours, can we stop using spoiler tags as of tonight????

Gemini Cricket · 05-24-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

...can we stop using spoiler tags as of tonight????

I see no problem with that.
Although, I guess the title of the thread should indicate that there are unmarked spoilers within...

scaeagles · 05-24-2008, 09:27 PM

I was bored through most of it when I wen tonight. After the boredom passed I was just embarrassed for those involved with it.

I'm not a picky movie goer. That was aweful.

05-23-2008, 08:17 PM	#71
flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	My "day later" feelings are that I really had a pleasant time watching it, but it's such candy floss, I'm already forgetting a lot about it. As to lashbears misgivings about CG stunts and sets, a big amen from me, but that's the way of things now. Indy 4 is obviously guilty as charged, but hardly the worst offender. (It wasn't Jerry Bruckheimer ridiculous.) But I can't help thinking that one day, a studio or director will do something truly "the old fashioned way" and make some major bucketloads of money. (And what if it was something original, not a franchise extension of any kind. There has to be a next big thing coming along someday, unrelated to any existing comic book, movie or TV series. Such hopes keep me going during the rough patches.)
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05-23-2008, 10:40 PM	#72
NickO'Time Missed it by that much.. Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 678	Spoiler: The bad things about the film.. There is no way in hell that Indy could step out of a Fridge and not come out unscathed. Total Bull-@#$% Karen Allen returning didn't do anything for me, She could have been left out. The Aliens and UFO theme didn't surprise me that it was in the film. Spoiler: What I did like: Loved all of 50's detail and loved final scenes with the Alien. Glad too see they still acknowledged "the Ark of Covenant" in the warehouse scene. Loved the cars and motorbikes. __________________ Yeah, right.
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05-24-2008, 11:28 AM	#73
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	About $31 million on Friday...
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05-24-2008, 12:43 PM	#74
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	The Bond films do all their stunts the old-fashioned way, and no one notices. I don't see the impetus to keep doing that. Everyone assumes most unrealistic things are done with CGI ... even when they're not. As for Indy 4's GGI laden-effects ... I have to admit I liked them better than the truly awful photographic effects in the old series (they had particular trouble with airplanes in both sequels) and prefered the CGI-enhanced locations to the horrible switch to fake backlot from grand outdoors in both sequels. Anyway, keep in mind a mine car jumping the tracks to land squarely on ... the tracks after a leap of 400 feet, or a wingless plane passing a car inside a tunnel, or an inflatable raft falling from a plane, careening down a mountain, falling over a cliff and landing in a river without any harm to the occupants. I can't believe I'm defending this crap. Actually, I hate it. But it's nothing new in Indy World. Complaints at this point are rather meaningless. If you'd hoped for a return to the comparatively gritty realism of Raiders of the Lost Ark, you haven't been paying attention to the talent arcs of Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.
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Promo-Man Actor / Comedian / Santa Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The North Pole of Anaheim Posts: 131	Went today. I wanted to be entertained and I was. I enjoyed it
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05-24-2008, 09:27 PM	#80
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I was bored through most of it when I wen tonight. After the boredom passed I was just embarrassed for those involved with it. I'm not a picky movie goer. That was aweful.
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