The Hillary Experience - Page 4

Moonliner · 05-15-2008, 07:12 AM

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Echo! Echo! Echo!

Man it's empty in here...

scaeagles · 05-15-2008, 07:54 AM

Talking about Hillary is a waste of time. However, I have heard a veru interesting theory about Hillary from her former long time and very politically astute advisor Dick Morris.

His theory is that Hillary knows she won't be the nominee. She isn't stupid. Once she drops out, though, she cant' try to do anything to harm Obama. Her goal is to do as much harm to Obama as possible prior to dropping out so that McCain wins the general and she can run again in 2012. In 2016 she will be 70, and while this may be sexist to say, there is very little chance a 70 year old woman gets elected.

Once she drops out, she will not do anything to help his campaign, and in fact, will be working behind the scenes against him indirectly, having political operatives do the dirty work.

No one knows Hillary better than Morris. An interesting theory indeed and somehting I would figure she would do. Neither Clinton lifted a finger to help John Kerrey in 2004 because they wanted him to lose so she could run in 2008.

Just a theory, but not a bad one.

Moonliner · 05-15-2008, 08:09 AM

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Her goal is to do as much harm to Obama as possible prior to dropping out so that McCain wins the general and she can run again in 2012.

Unfortunately most (but certainly not all) Hillary supporters fall under LTC(RET) Dave Grossman's definition of sheep and thus are unable to comprehend her wolf mentality.

Kevy Baby · 05-15-2008, 10:57 AM

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Echo! Echo! Echo!

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Get out of my head!

Cadaverous Pallor · 05-15-2008, 11:15 AM

I think non-support for Obama would be very conspicuous. For Kerry there was no good reason to support him, IMHO, since he was milquetoast. Obama CAN win and not supporting him would be pretty obvious. Hopefully, if that is her plan, it would backfire. The Clintons seem to be able to weather anything though...

sleepyjeff · 05-15-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I think non-support for Obama would be very conspicuous. For Kerry there was no good reason to support him, IMHO, since he was milquetoast. Obama CAN win and not supporting him would be pretty obvious. Hopefully, if that is her plan, it would backfire. The Clintons seem to be able to weather anything though...

Actually they can "not" support Obama and be inconspicuous......just have Bill campaign for the young man and, if recent history is anything to go by, he loses.

3894 · 05-16-2008, 10:46 AM

Worksafe video of creation of a cartoon for The New Yorker about Hillary's demise

Cadaverous Pallor · 06-01-2008, 05:38 PM

Every movement has its crazies. Here are Hillary's.

3894 · 06-02-2008, 06:58 AM

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Every movement has its crazies. Here are Hillary's.

I found her enlightening, CP. Thanks for the link. As a person supposedly smack dab in the middle of Sen. Clinton's constituency, I've been having trouble understanding her appeal. It's beginning to dawn on me that a lot of women see a younger, "less qualified" man favored over an older, "more qualified" woman.

BarTopDancer · 06-02-2008, 09:11 AM

Someone needs to remind Hillary that winning the popular vote didn't work out so well for Gore.

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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Talking about Hillary is a waste of time. However, I have heard a veru interesting theory about Hillary from her former long time and very politically astute advisor Dick Morris. His theory is that Hillary knows she won't be the nominee. She isn't stupid. Once she drops out, though, she cant' try to do anything to harm Obama. Her goal is to do as much harm to Obama as possible prior to dropping out so that McCain wins the general and she can run again in 2012. In 2016 she will be 70, and while this may be sexist to say, there is very little chance a 70 year old woman gets elected. Once she drops out, she will not do anything to help his campaign, and in fact, will be working behind the scenes against him indirectly, having political operatives do the dirty work. No one knows Hillary better than Morris. An interesting theory indeed and somehting I would figure she would do. Neither Clinton lifted a finger to help John Kerrey in 2004 because they wanted him to lose so she could run in 2008. Just a theory, but not a bad one.
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	I think non-support for Obama would be very conspicuous. For Kerry there was no good reason to support him, IMHO, since he was milquetoast. Obama CAN win and not supporting him would be pretty obvious. Hopefully, if that is her plan, it would backfire. The Clintons seem to be able to weather anything though... __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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