Democratic National Convention '08

[Alex]

And I just realized that I probably gave the sense of letting Bill Kristol's response stand as my own.

It wasn't, I though the last third was very good both otherwise I was underwhelmed.

But for me, the delivery and content weren't all that important so long as there was nothing surprising in them. Right now, the Republican Party is pretty much disqualified for the presidency in my eyes (you only get to screw up so much before you are demoted to the minors on principal) so unless something completely outside the pale is revealed about Obama or his plans for the presidency he'll have my vote regardless of our specific policy disagreements.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

I thought it was a very good speech. Perhaps not the best that Obama is capable of giving, but I don't think that was necessary here. I thought he came off as forceful, intelligent, fair and capable. I also think he addressed everything that needed to be addressed at that moment.

Reportedly, people waited in six mile long lines to get into the stadium. That's pretty insane but I might have done the same, had I been there.

[wendybeth]

I love how Morris is such a genius in Scaeagles estimation these days- I'd bet everything I own that he didn't think so before Morris turned weasel. I'm glad the cons got Morris and Leiberman- they are a much better fit in the GOP.

[Morrigoon]

Dear Lord, please don't let him pick Lieberman. Not because I don't think he can do the job, but because I simply can't stand to hear him speak.

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Well, I care about the substance more than how it is said. I don't even watch republican speeches, preferring to read them.

Some people only prefer to read the lyrics to songs, too.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

I love how Morris is such a genius in Scaeagles estimation these days- I'd bet everything I own that he didn't think so before Morris turned weasel. I'm glad the cons got Morris and Leiberman- they are a much better fit in the GOP.

And Wenchybeth, I would figure that when Morris was the architect of the Clinton's reign you would have let him suck on your toes, too.

I was going to explain my comments about Morris further, but why bother? This LoT has certainly lost it's sense of non personal political discussion.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Tenigma

Some people only prefer to read the lyrics to songs, too.

Last I checked Bono wasn't running for President. But you're right (as is Alex) in that most people do look at how he says something rather than the substance of what he says.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Alex

Why should this be surprising. I disagree with several of the policy proposals he put forward.

Also, I don't see where I said at all that I'm concerned more with delivery than substance.

I was surprised because you typically analyze.

Here's what you said that made me think that -

Well, you might want to care more about delivery because I think I can guarantee that very few people are going to be seeking the dispassion of reading it.

Telling me that I should be more soncerned with the delivery to me meant that I should care more about it that what was said. If you didn't mean that, then I misunderstood you.

[3894]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Somehow Obama managed to pull himself up without all these expensive programs he says we need.

So how about you cut all the fat out of the budget like you say and stop there. Stop collecting money you don't need and let the people keep it. That way they can rise or fall to the limits of their own ability.

He said his mother and he had to go on food stamps. He said he and Michelle got student loans because education got them where they were. He said once in the biographical film and once in the speech that I/we are our brothers'/sisters' keeper.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Because some people believe financial standing is not a measure of whether you deserve to receive health care, an education, and a basic standard of living.