To the moon, Alice!

[Pirate Bill]

Originally Posted by Alex

Phil Plait of the Bad Astronomy blog (and long time battler of the moon hoax believers)...

Penn Jillette used to have a radio show and would podcast the episodes. During one episode (actually I think it stretched to two) he had Phil Plait on to help debunk Joe Rogan and his conspiracy theories of the moon hoax. From listening to that debate I learned 2 things: 1) Rogan is a lunatic, and 2) these moon hoax believers cannot be convinced, because they don't appear to be looking for actual truth. Like you guys said above, they must have some other agenda.

Everytime Plait gave a great rebuttal to some of the "evidence" Rogan presented, Rogan would start throwing out even more absurd questions and myths. And in true Joe "I can't shut-up for 10 seconds" Rogan fashion, never really gave Plait much time to complete a thought. This gave the appearance of Rogan having more ammunition and "proof" than Plait and it almost seemed like the moon hoax theory had some validity. Penn didn't know what to make of it. He was hoping to shut Rogan up for good but his efforts seemed to be back firing with Rogan winning the debate.

[Alex]

Yeah, I'd heard the shows. Plait thinks he did pretty well in the first show and then got stomped on in the second.

[RStar]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

The skeptics are not looking for truth. They have a separate agenda.

Perhaps they just like to question stuff
Perhaps they don't like the US
Perhaps they just like to piss people off by arguing absurd points.

Whatever it is, they will never be convinced by something as trivial as facts.

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

No, the ones creating and perpetuating the conspiracy theories will never be convinced. All you can hope to do is put enough factual information out there so that otherwise uninformed people will be exposed to it rather than the idiocy.

We should just round them all up and send them to a moon base to get them out of the way. They could live in the unit next to those who think Elvis never died which is next door to the one with all the people who think Walt Disney's head is frozen and stored under POTC in Disneyland.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Gods bless TiVo- it recorded it in its "discretionary" stuff. I was reasonably impressed by a few of their experiments. Good job!

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by RStar

We should just round them all up and send them to a moon base to get them out of the way. They could live in the unit next to those who think Elvis never died which is next door to the one with all the people who think Walt Disney's head is frozen and stored under POTC in Disneyland.

So what you are saying is that if I believe in Elvis, I get to go to the moon base?


ELIVS LIVES!

[Disneyphile]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

The skeptics are not looking for truth. They have a separate agenda....
Perhaps they just like to piss people off by arguing absurd points.

I think this is quite true, because most of the skeptics I know also hate seeing people happy, often calling them "stupid". So, it's like they want to debunk anything and everything to prove to the world that they are "smart" and the rest of the world is "stupid", when in reality, they're just using "skepticism" as a facade for their own insecurities about why they don't fit in with the world. And, I've noticed they're not very happy people in general.

I'm not saying all skeptics are like this, but a lot of the ones I've met are constantly wanting to debunk everything to the point of obsession. I've had to restrain myself from saying, "The rest of the world are not all nutjobs. It's just you."

[Sohrshah]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

It was also great to see what a HUGE moon-landing/NASA geek Adam Savage is. Major geek, he was in freaking heaven.

Methinks mayhaps YOU are also a huge moon-landing NASA geek, too, GD. I missed it, but I'm hoping they'll show it again sometime this weekend!



~G.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I'm insanely excited about the prospect of myself getting to space. And of course the space program in general is awesome. But Adam owns his own space suit. Got nothing on that.

[Sohrshah]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I'm insanely excited about the prospect of myself getting to space. And of course the space program in general is awesome. But Adam owns his own space suit. Got nothing on that.

Now THAT'S dedication to mid-century vintage! I wonder if he's seen "Astronaut Farmer"?


also- I would have given you mad mojo for Elvis Lives, Moonliner, but you spelled Elvis wrong.... sorry can't diss the King like that. weak.

[Pirate Bill]

I just watched it last night. Now I want my own space suit too!