All About McCain

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I cannot speak to what she said regarding the firings and all. I don't know anything of it...there could be something to it, i don't know.

It was her third and fifth pargraphs, particularly the fifth, that I find to be offensive and ridiculously ignorant. I'm a conservative and don't happen to think my wife's place is in the home, and if you think my wife is stupid and doesn't think for herself as a conservative, than you obviously don't know many conservative women. My wife teaches at a Christian school where she was (gasp!) even allowed to remain as a teacher after giving birth! Can you believe it?!?!?! ABG has insulted every conservative female I know. How dare they NOT think like her! That must mean they are under the thumb of a domineering male who has brainwashed her into thinking that way.

On top of that, I don't know personally know any conservative leaning men that like stupid women nor any who have chsined their wives to a stove.

Yep - pretty insanely insulting.

And Sub, she offers a lot more than being just a woman in terms of consolidating a very shaky conservative base for the republicans.

Sorry, dude. Maybe you're not aware of any- you're not a Neanderthal and I've no doubt you and your spouse have a reasonably equitable relationship. I live in a very conservative area, and I know a lot of couples where the dynamic is exactly how ABG describes. Not a one of them is liberal. Most of the women are very unhappy as well, but their hubbies remain blissfully unaware until they leave them. Working in the business I do, and living in the neighborhood I do (predominantly Mormon), I see and hear things I doubt very much you are privy to. You want to know how women really feel? Ask their hairdresser.

Palin is a joke, and McCain will be sorry he chose her over the many others (male or female) that were better suited for such an important job. I'd say I am glad he chose her, as it only helps our side, but I care about my country enough to be very concerned that someone like that is even in the running.

[wendybeth]

Oh, and I just had to say that yesterday we at a festival in our downtown park, which draws people from all over the area. The Democrat's booth was swamped, while the Repub's was deserted. The guy running the Dem booth said it had been that way since the start of the festival. As I stated before, this is a very conservative town and it was really cool to see so much interest in the Dems for a change. There are Obama/Biden stickers and signs everywhere. It's nice to have hope for once.

[scaeagles]

What does "someone like that" mean? Someone who is conservative? She obviously has helped rally the conservative base who is less than thrilled with McCain. Someone with so little experience? If it experience that matters, then why be excited about Obama? Someone who has a track record of eliminating spending and opposing the party leadership, and calling out corrupt Republicans?

I really have no idea what is offensive about this woman in the least.

I have no doubt there are people exactly as have been described. I know people who support abortion because abortions have a higher rate among the african american population, and they are racists and want fewer african american people around. Pretty disgusting. But they exist. I don't think it would be a good idea to come on this board and say that people who support abortion do so for that reason. I think that mught rile a few people up. Apparently, though, painting with a broad brush like that is completely acceptable here when it comes to conservatives. It is offensive.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

As I stated before, this is a very conservative town

Didn't you guys have Tip O'Neill there? He was from Spokane, right?

[scaeagles]

And while I realize there is doubt as to the polling, here is some Zogby stuff taken after the selection of Palin.

[wendybeth]

Nope- Tom Foley. And the idiots voted him out, while he was House Speaker (although he would have been minority leader should he have been re-elected) and voted in George Netherbutt, who ran on a term limits platform. Of course, he changed his mind about term limits when his was up, and ran again. Dick.

[scaeagles]

Sorry - duh. Wrong speaker.

[wendybeth]

Oh, and "someone like that" refers to her hypocrisy with regards to 'family values', her activities regarding her ex-brother-in-law, her determination to take away MY reproductive rights, and the fact that she obviously wears the pants in her family yet pretends that hubby is the Fearless Leader of the Clan. I'm sick of strong women having to take a backseat to their husbands for fear of emasculating them- why can't they just be partners? Why does someone have to be the leader, and if it is necessary, why would the person in the leadership role have to sit in the backseat and play all meek and mild just to make the other look and feel like the stronger one? This goes both ways- I know lots of men who do everything for their wives, yet present as a true couple without the whole leader/follower dynamic. I only wish they would teach their wives how to survive after they are gone. (Speaking about one of my clients in particular who just lost her hubby, and is absolutely helpless about even such simple things as check writing.)

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

....and in fact brought it forth herself due to the quite spiteful and vicious left wing rumors that Trig is not hers.

Interestingly enough, while that story was inaccurate (and it was never reported as anything more than speculation) it did bring out an interesting concern about Palin's judgment that is certainly more than a rumor. It's based on what she said after she gave birth.

As she tells the story, she was in Texas when she felt herself leaking amniotic fluid. Rather than check into a hospital immediately, which is what I understand is pretty standard procedure, she not only went on to give the speech, but then proceeded to board an 8-hour flight back to Alaska because "her and her husband didn't want the baby of an Alaskan Governor to be born in Texas." Landing in Alaska, they then made another 45 minute drive to small hospital, rather than go to the medical facilities that were close to the Anchorage airport.

She says that her doctor gave her the OK for the flight, but a number of doctors have weighed in on this and said that no doctor in his right mine would have. Besides the risk of the baby being born premature while in flight, there is also a very serious risk of infection setting in once the water has broken. Quite a few babies have died from these infections, which can set in within hours. No matter how you slice it, she put the baby at extreme risk by making this flight, rather than seeking medical attention at the location she was at. And if nothing else, I would say this falls under the category of extremely poor judgment as well.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Alex

Boy that McCain is a real asshole stealing your moment in the sun. Will this change your vote?

You said it....but no, I am happy with his new choice.

Originally Posted by 3894

Biden should go after Palin with everything he's got and she should go after him likewise. The fact that it was even brought up shows the perception of a less-qualified candidate in McCain's running mate.

Biden would be wise to lay off discussing experience or qualifications.......Palin has more executive experience(and the office of President is an executive position) then Biden, McCain, and Obama combined

Originally Posted by Tom

I don't think any significant number of Hillary supporters will be drawn to Palin.

In a close state(such as Florida 2000) it won't take but a few score of such voters