The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

It's one thing to try and keep your competition off the ballot. It's quite another to try and keep people from voting at all.

I suppose you love the elections of Castro and Saddam Hussein then. They have huge voter turnouts and win with 99.9% of the vote.

Democracy.....so great that it has been experienced under such great dictators.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I suppose you love the elections of Castro and Saddam Hussein then. They have huge voter turnouts and win with 99.9% of the vote.

Democracy.....so great that it has been experienced under such great dictators.

Don't twist my words. I never said any such thing! I was talking about the United States of America.

I have to ask... Do you approve of trying to trick your fellow Americans out of their votes - commiting a crime by attempting to keep their votes from being counted - so that the candidate you support wins?

[scaeagles]

No. Nor did I support Gore trying to get military ballots not counted, but that's another story.

I do not believe I twisted your words, but I admit to a grand extrapolation. I do not in any way believe that you would support Castro or Saddam Hussein. However, they certainly keep opponents off the ballot.

[JWBear]

There is a huge difference between a legal vetting of nomination petitions and the illegal tampering with of elections.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

There is a huge difference between a legal vetting of nomination petitions and the illegal tampering with of elections.

Does Patrick Gaspard still work for the Obama campaign?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Does Patrick Gaspard still work for the Obama campaign?

I don't know. Why is that relevant?

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I don't know. Why is that relevant?

Well, he was fined for voter fraud back during the Kerry campaign....and Obama did hire him to help run his Campaign; I honestly don't know if he still works for Obama which is why I was aksing.

[JWBear]

He was fined for having ex-cons working for his orginization in "get-out-the-vote" activities; not voter supression. Apples and oranges.

I noticed that none of the McCain supporters here have answered my question. Do you support the Republian party attempting to supress the votes of Obama supporters?

[Morrigoon]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I don't consider either an angel, and don't put dirty deeds as president beyond either's reach. But clearly I don't like what McCain is becoming, while I think Obama is improving. That, in itself, is reason to vote for Obama in the contest between them.

I have to say that I've been really enjoying following your thought process on who to vote for. I mean that in a totally non-sarcastic way, because given your original position, it's been interesting watching you decide where to go from there.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

He was fined for having ex-cons working for his orginization in "get-out-the-vote" activities; not voter supression. Apples and oranges.

I noticed that none of the McCain supporters here have answered my question. Do you support the Republian party attempting to supress the votes of Obama supporters?

I am against ALL voter fraud....that includes voter supression(like Obama did to his State Senatorial district--he supressed the will of those who wanted to vote for his oponent).....I guess I am not sophisticated enough to say some voter fraud is ok and some isn't(and surprise surprise, the kind I don't mind too much this week is the kind my candidate has participated in )


btw: I really like you and I hope to G-d my posts don't come off as if I don't....because I do