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[Morrigoon]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Leo, we've been over this. You can deny it all you want, but it's one of the most basic principles of supply and demand economics and is mathematical truth. Taxes levied against the supply side are NOT proportionately compensated for in consumer prices. The more elastic the price of the good, the smaller impact a supply-side tax has on a consumer. It is a function of the slope of the demand curve.

This is true, the tax is shared between seller and consumer.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

He does need to practice smiling in the mirror; every time I see him flash that taut sort of grimace he thinks passes as a smile I get concerned about his fiber intake.

To be fair (and I don't like his grimace either), the left side of his face is covered in scar tissue from melanoma surgeries; among other things after the 2000 campaign he had lymph nodes and some muscle tissue removed from that side. The scars aren't obvious because he's usually wearing make-up when you see him, but he does have a loss of mobility on one side of his face.

Admittedly, this causes him to have a smile that looks off. Just like his POW injuries make it difficult for him to raise his arms (and his jaw was broken then as well which may also contribute to the smile) which gives him a very odd walk and stance.

So yeah, I have a visceral negative reaction but I try to remind myself that it is kind of like laughing at a hairlip and that it isn't really important anyway since the way you smile isn't really an indicator of what kind of person you are.

Here's a picture of him shortly after one of his facial surgeries.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

Have you ever owned a business, Leo?

Actually, yes. But not in the way you might think. Fully distributed partnership. 10 years. A fully distributed partnership pays no corporate taxes.

[Scrooge McSam]

OK, just me wondering and trying to understand.

[blueerica]

I haven't read all of this thread (surprisingly, I've wanted to as of late, I've just been out of time and not willing to go through Sooo...-like threads) but after about 30-ish minutes of the debate, I had to change channels due to the frustrating way that both candidates never answered the questions at hand, but went toward whatever the hell they wanted to talk about, so long as it was a tangent point.

If it got better after that, I don't know.

Oh, and I'm sure it was mentioned in another thread, but I couldn't help but be annoyed with McCain's choice to ditch Letterman for Couric the other night. Blah..

[innerSpaceman]

The first 30 minutes were devoted to the financial crisis, and both candidates were tone deaf to the current American panic. But McCain so blatently refused to answer Lehrer's questions, that he asked it again and again ... and the final time even saying he was changing the wording so that he could hope to get a straight answer from either of them.


Once the debate turned to the scheduled topic of foreign policy, they each did better.

I was amazed and aghast today to overhear so many rightwing newscasts that, I guess predictably, found Obama's performance and positions abyssmal and McCain fantastic on both fronts. On.What.Planet?

[CoasterMatt]

Too bad it wasn't produced by Nickelodeon - everytime they said "I don't know" - they would have been slimed

[scaeagles]

I found no surprise in the left praising Obama and the right praising McCain in whatever format. I'm kind of surprised you were surprised. Wouldn't have been any other way.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Actually, I haven't seen any source that's said anything other than they both did well.

[scaeagles]

To be honest, I haven't read any analysis of the debate. I just figured it would be that way no matter what.