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Old 05-04-2005, 12:16 AM   #21
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Old 05-04-2005, 06:34 AM   #22
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I'd institute single-term limits for every political position. Imagine how much work these Senators and Congressmen would get done if they didn't spend half their day begging for campaign money.


Oh, and I'd undo everything scaeagles has done should he get to the White House first. No sense raping our Mother so that millionaires can make a few more bucks (You know, like Dubya and his puppeteers selling oil from the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to Asia -- lower America's dependence on foreign oil my ass.).
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Old 05-04-2005, 06:54 AM   #23
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KFC, Jack in the Box, McDonalds, Burger King, the many mom and pop restaurants around town, Carls Jr., All the taco stands that are in my neighborhood, Hooters, Uno's, Baja Fresh, Pick Up Stix, California Pizza Kitchen, TGI Friday's,Kripy Kreme, Other Donut shops, any other restaurant/bar that serves anything fried, as well as several industries that use vegetable oils for their products.
There are still the logistical issues of finding practical ways to use it. Anything previously used would obviously have to be finely filtered, and there would still be the same distribution problems of how to get it to places to filter it and get it into vehicles.
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Next thing I'd do is get rid of the U.S. Mint, and replace it with the U.S. Chocolate Mint. That's right, the new currency for my bellhop dictatorship would be Chocolate.
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I'd institute single-term limits for every political position. Imagine how much work these Senators and Congressmen would get done if they didn't spend half their day begging for campaign money.

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There are still the logistical issues of finding practical ways to use it. Anything previously used would obviously have to be finely filtered, and there would still be the same distribution problems of how to get it to places to filter it and get it into vehicles.
Brief outline of what solutions people have with filtering used vegetable oil....... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5136966/

I am sure some enterprising entrepenuer would jump at the chance to secure contracts with the hundreds of restauranteurs to make a few bucks for doing nothing more then a little filtering and redistribution. This type of thing has the same feel as linux to me, there were many people that I knew several years ago that said linux would never last, but it is still a thriving OS, in fact Red Hat was a very good stock at one point(I haven't watched their stock in several years, so don't know what they are doing now). So, I don't know what the reluctance is to ween ourselves off the fossil fuel tit is, but I would be more then willing to convert a car to run off diesel(I think the next four wheeled vehicle I buy will be diesel so I can use a different fuel). But back to the point, as more and more people take steps to use vegetable oil as an alternative fuel, the distribution needs would arise. It seems a far better solution to me then drilling for a pittance of oil in a pristine wildlife refuge, and who knows, maybe the market for agricultural products would improve decreasing the need for agricultural subsidies. Seems more a win-win to me then lining the already bulging pockets of the oil millionaires. I am a realist and understand that there will always be a demand for fossil fuels, but introducing a viable alternative that could help to decrease our dependance on fossil fuels as the only form of energy seems very promising.
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:19 AM   #27
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Name, I'm all for it. However, I honestly believe that if there was profit in it it would be getting done. I would suspect the holdup on such action comes from several fronts -

Not enough people drive diesels to make it worth while at present.

Those who drive diesels may not be willing or able to shoulder the cost of conversion.

Car manufacturers would have to be convinced that consumers would purchase diesels (perhaps veggie oil ready) to increase their production of them.

No consumer would buy these cars until the infrastructure was in place to allow for refueling with ease somewhat close to finding the corner gas station. The investment to provide for that is billions of dollars.

I don't see any industry being willing to take the risk.

If these industries did, I doubt it would be any economical to pay for collection and processing of the used vegetable oil. I would suspect that fresh veggie oil would be required. Should the use of this go widespread, then there would be more investments required to drastically increase production of vegetable oil. Doesn't the oil in fryers at restaurants get changed only once a day? I am not sure. I just doubt that the restaurant industry would not have enough to be recycled to make a difference.
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who knows, its just something to watch in the coming years, and if the price of fossil fuels keeps rising, I think more and more people would go for this thing(as several already have). It's just nice to know that there is a useable alternative to fossil fuels to use in diesel vehicles. I don't see the use of vegetable oil going away, and it may have a slow start, but I'd say 10 to 20 years(maybe more, maybe less) it will have grown to something more then just a few people around the country stopping by their restaurants to having a few places that you can buy vegetable oil from the pump. All I know as a fact is there is only a finite amount of fossil fuels that eventually will be dried up, so the sooner we decrease our dependance on them, the better. I'm just putting the vegetable oil idea on my watch list, who knows where it will go.
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With Liberty and Justice for only those who deserve it, which means your'e finally screwed O.J., because everyone knows your ass is guilty."

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You are *killing* me today. If this were the actual pledge, I might have been more inclined to stand up and actually do it.
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