MLB '09

Ghoulish Delight · 01-23-2009, 02:30 PM

Yeah, it's January. But following off season moves is half the fun!

I'm sad to see Jeff Kent retiring. Finest mustache in baseball.

I'm happy with to Dodgers' off season restraint. A couple low-key but pivotal pickups, some smart passes (Randy Johnson and Trevor Hoffman? Ugh, no). Still have the best pool of young talent around in tact. And still seem to be in excellent position to wait out Ramirez.

And good by Andruw Jones.

If this Randy Wolf deal goes through, they can probably get by on pitching until a mid-season opportunity presents itself. It'd be great to grab Sheets, or Pettite, but not at the expense of a shot at Ramirez.

Andrew · 01-23-2009, 02:44 PM

The Giants picked up Randy Johnson for what's expected to be his final year. He thinks he's got one more good year in him and who is anyone else to say he doesn't? So SF will have three Cy Young award winners in their rotation (also Lincecum and Zito).

That combined with the general weakness in the NL West means SF might have a decent chance at the division. Of course they'd be quickly eliminated in the first round, but a winning record and a division title is miles better than they've done recently.

Ghoulish Delight · 01-23-2009, 02:48 PM

I'm predicting the Giants will be lucky to get 100 innings out of Johnson this season. Nothing particular to back that up, just a gut feeling.

If the Dodgers do indeed sign Ramirez, you're going to have to rethink that "general weakness" statement.

SacTown Chronic · 01-23-2009, 04:41 PM

Two out of the three Cy Young winners in the Giants' rotation are - how to be kind here? - a bit removed from their heyday (but I hear that Zito is, as ever, thisclose to regaining his form).

I'm nobody to say that Randy Johnson doesn't have one more good year in him, but I'll say it anyway.

Strangler Lewis · 01-23-2009, 05:45 PM

I remember being at Candlestick mid-season in 1986 when the Giants announced that they had just acquired Steve Carlton. The place went nuts.

Carlton went before the end of the year.

Unless the Unit has been working the flax seed balm, I'm not optimistic.

Gemini Cricket · 01-23-2009, 06:19 PM

Ching ching.
I wish I was Mrs. Mark Teixeira, I tells ya what...

SacTown Chronic · 01-23-2009, 08:02 PM

I bet GC was saying that before Teixeira got his new contract.

Gemini Cricket · 01-23-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

I bet GC was saying that before Teixeira got his new contract.

In all honesty... yes.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-03-2009, 03:55 PM

You know, I wish McCourt would just have the balls to say, "We're not going to sign Manny, so forget about it."

They could sign Manny today. Offer him a 3 year deal and he's yours. 3 years is not a long time to commit to a player of that caliber. He ain't that old. And you'd get a good price on him for those three years. He wants 4, he's not getting even nibbles, he'd accept a year less.

Anything else isn't a serious offer. 1 year deal? Really? Even at the high price, that's an offer that was never meant to be accepted. That was a, "See, fans, we're trying! Manny's just not playing ball with us!" PR move because they think the fans can't handle, "We have no real desire to bring him back." I'd rather they did that and seriously went after a free agent they actually want than play this game.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-20-2009, 03:21 PM

Orlando Hudson. Nice!

01-23-2009, 02:30 PM	#1
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	MLB '09 Yeah, it's January. But following off season moves is half the fun! I'm sad to see Jeff Kent retiring. Finest mustache in baseball. I'm happy with to Dodgers' off season restraint. A couple low-key but pivotal pickups, some smart passes (Randy Johnson and Trevor Hoffman? Ugh, no). Still have the best pool of young talent around in tact. And still seem to be in excellent position to wait out Ramirez. And good by Andruw Jones. If this Randy Wolf deal goes through, they can probably get by on pitching until a mid-season opportunity presents itself. It'd be great to grab Sheets, or Pettite, but not at the expense of a shot at Ramirez. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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01-23-2009, 02:44 PM	#2
Andrew Making Good Girls Go Bad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 734	The Giants picked up Randy Johnson for what's expected to be his final year. He thinks he's got one more good year in him and who is anyone else to say he doesn't? So SF will have three Cy Young award winners in their rotation (also Lincecum and Zito). That combined with the general weakness in the NL West means SF might have a decent chance at the division. Of course they'd be quickly eliminated in the first round, but a winning record and a division title is miles better than they've done recently. __________________ -- Andrew Just Andrew. Do I contradict myself? Very well then, I contradict myself. (I am large, I contain multitudes.) -- Walt Whitman, "Song of Myself"
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01-23-2009, 02:48 PM	#3
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I'm predicting the Giants will be lucky to get 100 innings out of Johnson this season. Nothing particular to back that up, just a gut feeling. If the Dodgers do indeed sign Ramirez, you're going to have to rethink that "general weakness" statement. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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01-23-2009, 04:41 PM	#4
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Two out of the three Cy Young winners in the Giants' rotation are - how to be kind here? - a bit removed from their heyday (but I hear that Zito is, as ever, thisclose to regaining his form). I'm nobody to say that Randy Johnson doesn't have one more good year in him, but I'll say it anyway. __________________ Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?
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01-23-2009, 05:45 PM	#5
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I remember being at Candlestick mid-season in 1986 when the Giants announced that they had just acquired Steve Carlton. The place went nuts. Carlton went before the end of the year. Unless the Unit has been working the flax seed balm, I'm not optimistic. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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01-23-2009, 06:19 PM	#6
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Ching ching. I wish I was Mrs. Mark Teixeira, I tells ya what...
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01-23-2009, 08:02 PM	#7
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	I bet GC was saying that before Teixeira got his new contract. __________________ Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?
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02-03-2009, 03:55 PM	#9
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	You know, I wish McCourt would just have the balls to say, "We're not going to sign Manny, so forget about it." They could sign Manny today. Offer him a 3 year deal and he's yours. 3 years is not a long time to commit to a player of that caliber. He ain't that old. And you'd get a good price on him for those three years. He wants 4, he's not getting even nibbles, he'd accept a year less. Anything else isn't a serious offer. 1 year deal? Really? Even at the high price, that's an offer that was never meant to be accepted. That was a, "See, fans, we're trying! Manny's just not playing ball with us!" PR move because they think the fans can't handle, "We have no real desire to bring him back." I'd rather they did that and seriously went after a free agent they actually want than play this game. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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02-20-2009, 03:21 PM	#10
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Orlando Hudson. Nice! __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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