Interesting site for people that value privacy

Moonliner · 03-04-2009, 02:33 PM

Check out:

http://www.instructables.com/member/w1n5t0n/

See how your printer is ratting you out.

How to Surf anonymously

etc...

Morrigoon · 03-04-2009, 03:11 PM

The printer thing was interesting, but they haven't figured out a workaround. Surprising that no one's figured out how to write an update to the driver software that throws out the yellow dots.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-04-2009, 03:21 PM

It's not the driver, it's the firmware on the printer itself. And they are legally required to have them to identify counterfeiters.

Alex · 03-04-2009, 03:32 PM

My water bottle is ratting me out every time I use it too. My pillow retains information that could, if anybody cared to look, prove that I had, at some point, placed my head upon it.

Some of the stuff there is interesting, but to me anyway "I want to move through the world without leaving a trace" does not necessarily equate to "I value privacy."

Moonliner · 03-04-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

It's not the driver, it's the firmware on the printer itself. And they are legally required to have them to identify counterfeiters.

Legally?

Can you show me the law?

I think it's voluntary on the part of the printer manufactures. Especially since there are a number of models available that do not appear to have the watermarking feature.

Pirate Bill · 03-04-2009, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Check out:

http://www.instructables.com/member/w1n5t0n/

Have you read "Little Brother"?

Moonliner · 03-04-2009, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate Bill

Have you read "Little Brother"?

Now why would you ask that?

"Little Brother"

Ghoulish Delight · 03-04-2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Legally?

Can you show me the law?

I think it's voluntary on the part of the printer manufactures. Especially since there are a number of models available that do not appear to have the watermarking feature.

My mistake, I thought I recalled it being a requirement when I learned about it a while ago.

I'm with Alex on this one.

Kevy Baby · 03-04-2009, 04:46 PM

How about a site for people who value piracy?

Alex · 03-04-2009, 04:49 PM

To be clear, I don't particularly like the marking for printers and copiers. I think if a manufacturers is intentionally adding forensic devices to their products they should reveal it and let the purchaser make up their mind.

That said, I don't think a theoretical ability to track me down necessarily equates to a violation of privacy. To prove I printed a particular piece of paper from my printer would pretty much require already knowing that I printed it. Nobody is going to find a random piece of trash at the landfill and be able to say "Alex Stroup printed this."

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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	The printer thing was interesting, but they haven't figured out a workaround. Surprising that no one's figured out how to write an update to the driver software that throws out the yellow dots. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	It's not the driver, it's the firmware on the printer itself. And they are legally required to have them to identify counterfeiters. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	My water bottle is ratting me out every time I use it too. My pillow retains information that could, if anybody cared to look, prove that I had, at some point, placed my head upon it. Some of the stuff there is interesting, but to me anyway "I want to move through the world without leaving a trace" does not necessarily equate to "I value privacy."
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	To be clear, I don't particularly like the marking for printers and copiers. I think if a manufacturers is intentionally adding forensic devices to their products they should reveal it and let the purchaser make up their mind. That said, I don't think a theoretical ability to track me down necessarily equates to a violation of privacy. To prove I printed a particular piece of paper from my printer would pretty much require already knowing that I printed it. Nobody is going to find a random piece of trash at the landfill and be able to say "Alex Stroup printed this."
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