The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

*sigh*

It is possible to be against the views of an individual without being a "frightened bigot" you know.

Of course it is. Please re-read their comments. They go far beyond disagreeing with her views.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Of course it is. Please re-read their comments. They go far beyond disagreeing with her views.

I was not defending Liddy and the like, I was just making a general point.

You can be against anyone of any race without being a racist

That of course does not deny that racism and other forms a hate exist.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

The middle Liddy comment is most certainly inappropriate. He should be criticized.

The first is, of course, pointing out her affiliation with a group that is questionable at best.

What's wrong with that first quote is him referring to the Spanish language as "Illegal Alien". That’s unconscionable.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

The last I agree with 100%. It isn't a representative body.

That’s a matter of opinion, and many would disagree with you.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Should Sotomayor NOT be criticized for her racist comments? I think they are. They would be considered to be so if a white man said it about a hispanic woman.

Um… What racist comments?

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I also think she should be criticized for her comments about the circuit court "making policy". Courts should not "make policy".

Again, many (including Justice Scalia, BTW) disagree.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

And I'm not a frightened bigot because I don't like her as a choice. I don't like what I've read and hear about her.

I never said that you were a frightened bigot. I was referring to the pundits who are making the nasty ad-hominem attacks against her due to her race and gender.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

I was not defending Liddy and the like, I was just making a general point.

You can be against anyone of any race without being a racist

That of course does not deny that racism and other forms a hate exist.

I agree 100%. But these people are attacking her because she is a latina. That, my friend, is racism.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I agree 100%. But these people are attacking her because she is a latina. That, my friend, is racism.

I don't think so. They are attacking her because they are on the other side of the political arena. Which is just as bad I suppose. Judging someone soley on their political affiliation is short sighted at best.

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

They are attacking her because they are on the other side of the political arena.

Thank you, Moonie

[Strangler Lewis]

I'm not a huge fan of her "Latina" quote. However, if one steps back a bit, it's no different than many similar quotes.

As I will now demonstrate.

The reality is that many laws affect women and Latinos, or other groups that comprise what can be generalized as "the poor and underrepresented." More likely than not, these laws are not enacted by members of the poor and underrepresented.

Though that is changing.

Thus, her comment, boneheaded as it sounds, is really no different than comments made by members of any other group--small business owners, oil drillers, homophobic drill sergeants--who complain about laws being made and enforced against them by legislators and courts who have no practical experience with the subject that they are regulating.

Thank you.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

I don't think so. They are attacking her because they are on the other side of the political arena. Which is just as bad I suppose. Judging someone soley on their political affiliation is short sighted at best.

Umm.... Have you read the attacks?

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Umm.... Have you read the attacks?

Yes. Some critics are using her race and/or gender as an issue because they know that will resonate with a certain percentage of the population, but I would still argue that it's a tool. A means to an end for them and not the root issue with her nomination.

[Strangler Lewis]

There is no root issue with her nomination except looking for buzz words to Obama with. That's why Jeff Sessions goes on TV with his lame John McCain giggle and uses the words "feelings" and "empathy."