Chastity Bono announces gender reassignment

Ghoulish Delight · 06-12-2009, 08:37 AM

Story. The title pretty much says it all. Read elsewhere that he'll go by "Chaz".

Alex · 06-12-2009, 08:59 AM

For those opposed to same-sex marriage:

What gender should he be allowed to marry?

3894 · 06-12-2009, 09:01 AM

Smooth sailing to you, Chaz.

wendybeth · 06-12-2009, 09:11 AM

Ironically, once he's been legally declared male he can get married in the state of California.

Ghoulish Delight · 06-12-2009, 09:16 AM

But would he be allowed to serve in the military?

Kevy Baby · 06-12-2009, 10:00 AM

The technical term for the surgery is adadictomy

Alex · 06-12-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

But would he be allowed to serve in the military?

As near as I can find (but so far not from primary sources) transgender status or a gender identity disorder diagnosis are disqualifications for being accepted into the military.

Of course, being 40 would probably keep him out too.

innerSpaceman · 06-12-2009, 10:52 AM

I have a lot of issues with Trans people. I need to get to know some more of those folks.

But I kinda resent them being lumped in with da gays. Gender Identity issues have absolutely nothing to do with same-sex orientation. I have nothing more in common issue-wise with Trans people than I do with Latinos and African-Americans or any other oppressed group of people. I want the 'T" from LGBT thrown into Boston Harbor.

Further, while the main issue I'm dealing with right now on the gay side is Marriage Equality, it rankles that Trans people can marry whomever they want. This is not their issue at all, and their issues have nothing to do with it. It doesn't help any that I think there's no surgery or personal belief that can actually change one's gender ... so, to me, a Trans Man-to Woman who marries a man is "getting away with" gay marriage through a legal loophole that I could care less about, but that's what it is to me.

Clearly, I have a lot of work to do. But I just don't get Trans folk. I think everybody should live the life they want ... but thinking you ARE a different gender is a delusion. One may prefer to act like, and have as many attributes as possible as, and think of oneself as a different gender. But that doesn't make it so.

Still, I'm all for complete personal freedom that hurts no one else, so good luck to Chaz Bono in all her or his future endeavors.

3894 · 06-12-2009, 11:37 AM

The piece I read last night (cnn.com???) said that quite a small percentage of all transgendered people have surgery, that it's much more about living as a man or a woman than anything anatomical.

scaeagles · 06-12-2009, 11:39 AM

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Clearly, I have a lot of work to do. But I just don't get Trans folk. I think everybody should live the life they want ...

Why do you think you have a lot fo work to do? I don't think that you (or I or anyone) has to understand or embrace what others choose to do.

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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Chastity Bono announces gender reassignment Story. The title pretty much says it all. Read elsewhere that he'll go by "Chaz". __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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3894 Next Stop: Funkytown! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cheeselandia Posts: 1,907	Smooth sailing to you, Chaz. __________________ "I didn't want to have to do this, but you leave me no choice. Here comes the smolder." - Flynn Rider, "Tangled"
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I have a lot of issues with Trans people. I need to get to know some more of those folks. But I kinda resent them being lumped in with da gays. Gender Identity issues have absolutely nothing to do with same-sex orientation. I have nothing more in common issue-wise with Trans people than I do with Latinos and African-Americans or any other oppressed group of people. I want the 'T" from LGBT thrown into Boston Harbor. Further, while the main issue I'm dealing with right now on the gay side is Marriage Equality, it rankles that Trans people can marry whomever they want. This is not their issue at all, and their issues have nothing to do with it. It doesn't help any that I think there's no surgery or personal belief that can actually change one's gender ... so, to me, a Trans Man-to Woman who marries a man is "getting away with" gay marriage through a legal loophole that I could care less about, but that's what it is to me. Clearly, I have a lot of work to do. But I just don't get Trans folk. I think everybody should live the life they want ... but thinking you ARE a different gender is a delusion. One may prefer to act like, and have as many attributes as possible as, and think of oneself as a different gender. But that doesn't make it so. Still, I'm all for complete personal freedom that hurts no one else, so good luck to Chaz Bono in all her or his future endeavors.
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3894 Next Stop: Funkytown! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cheeselandia Posts: 1,907	The piece I read last night (cnn.com???) said that quite a small percentage of all transgendered people have surgery, that it's much more about living as a man or a woman than anything anatomical. __________________ "I didn't want to have to do this, but you leave me no choice. Here comes the smolder." - Flynn Rider, "Tangled"
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