MLB '09 - Page 21

Ghoulish Delight · 07-22-2009, 10:11 PM

With no batting practice, no less.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-23-2009, 02:51 PM

Less than 2 weeks later, Johnathan Sanchez gets upstaged

SacTown Chronic · 07-23-2009, 03:22 PM

Perfect games are overrated.

Strangler Lewis · 07-23-2009, 03:25 PM

Actually, I bet if you look at the ratio of Hall of Famers/potential Hall of Famers/All Stars to lucky bums among the few perfect game throwers, I bet it's far higher than with simple no hitters.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-23-2009, 03:36 PM

Well, ignoring anything after 1989 since those pitchers potentially can still be inducted, 5 of the 10 modern era perfect gamers went on to be inducted.

There have been 264 no-hitters (248 if you discount the 19 perfect games). There are only 72 pitchers in the Hall of Fame total. So, without combing through all 263 to account for pitchers with multiple no-hitters I think it's a safe bet that yes, a higher percentage of pitchers that threw perfect games have made it to the hall than those that "just" threw no-hitters.

But then, simply the comparative rarity (1/14th the number) is probably evidence enough of how much more significant an accomplishment it is.

Alex · 07-23-2009, 03:43 PM

Hard to say, out of the 11 modern era perfect games where the pitcher is eligible for the Hall of Fame, five of them are in the hall (and one also became a U.S. Senator).

Of the remaining five eligible (Kenny Rogers, David Wells, David Cone, Randy Johnson, Mark Buehrle) at least one will definitely be going (Johnson). So that is a minimum of 37.5% representation from the games elite.

That said, Nolan Ryan is in the Hall of Fame as well and I believe he alone accounts for 73% of all no hitters thrown in the modern era.

SacTown Chronic · 07-23-2009, 04:13 PM

Ryan also accounts for 100% of the worst ass whipping Robin Ventura ever took.

I can't wait to see or hear Rickey Henderson's HoF induction speech this weekend. I want to know if "Rickey thinks Rickey is humbled by this honor".

Strangler Lewis · 07-23-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Ryan also accounts for 100% of the worst ass whipping Robin Ventura ever took.

One of my favorite highlights ever. I thought Ventura was an idiot--at least until he played for the Mets, had some good years and hit that grand slam single.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-23-2009, 10:34 PM

Poor Manny. Between the release of the absolute nothing that is the Lebron James dunked-on video and the perfect game, his grand slam disappeared off the highlight reels faster than a plate of spaghetti at Tommy Lasorda's dinner table.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-27-2009, 09:13 PM

My god ESPN's baseball coverage is insufferable. I may never complain about Lyons, Steiner, and Eric Collins again.

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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Less than 2 weeks later, Johnathan Sanchez gets upstaged __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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07-23-2009, 03:36 PM	#205
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Well, ignoring anything after 1989 since those pitchers potentially can still be inducted, 5 of the 10 modern era perfect gamers went on to be inducted. There have been 264 no-hitters (248 if you discount the 19 perfect games). There are only 72 pitchers in the Hall of Fame total. So, without combing through all 263 to account for pitchers with multiple no-hitters I think it's a safe bet that yes, a higher percentage of pitchers that threw perfect games have made it to the hall than those that "just" threw no-hitters. But then, simply the comparative rarity (1/14th the number) is probably evidence enough of how much more significant an accomplishment it is. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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07-23-2009, 03:43 PM	#206
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Hard to say, out of the 11 modern era perfect games where the pitcher is eligible for the Hall of Fame, five of them are in the hall (and one also became a U.S. Senator). Of the remaining five eligible (Kenny Rogers, David Wells, David Cone, Randy Johnson, Mark Buehrle) at least one will definitely be going (Johnson). So that is a minimum of 37.5% representation from the games elite. That said, Nolan Ryan is in the Hall of Fame as well and I believe he alone accounts for 73% of all no hitters thrown in the modern era.
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07-23-2009, 04:13 PM	#207
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Ryan also accounts for 100% of the worst ass whipping Robin Ventura ever took. I can't wait to see or hear Rickey Henderson's HoF induction speech this weekend. I want to know if "Rickey thinks Rickey is humbled by this honor". __________________ Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?
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07-23-2009, 10:34 PM	#209
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Poor Manny. Between the release of the absolute nothing that is the Lebron James dunked-on video and the perfect game, his grand slam disappeared off the highlight reels faster than a plate of spaghetti at Tommy Lasorda's dinner table. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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07-27-2009, 09:13 PM	#210
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	My god ESPN's baseball coverage is insufferable. I may never complain about Lyons, Steiner, and Eric Collins again. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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