H1N1 flu vaccine - Page 3

innerSpaceman · 10-23-2009, 02:46 PM

Really? Reports??? In CHINA?

Please forgive me for laughing at the thought of any of that being accurate.

I'm not at all saying whatever anyone might find on the internet about vaccine dangers may be 98% tinfoil-hat stuff, but officialdom in China as source of reliable information is just as absurd.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-23-2009, 02:58 PM

Those numbers come from WHO, not from China's government.

But like I said, that was just the first stat I found. Plenty more out there, the most important being that A) the H1N1 vaccine is being produced by the same producers, on the same equipment, with the same process that the "regular" vaccine has been for the past 30 years with no ill effects (Jenny McCarthy can go screw) and B) even with the accelerated time table to get the H1N1 on the market, there have been several different clinical trials already that have shown it to be as safe as the general flu shot.

innerSpaceman · 10-23-2009, 03:30 PM

Safe as the general flu shot is not nearly good enough for me.

I'm not in a high-risk group, so I have the luxury of using my own anti-bodies, and I'm fine with that.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-23-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Safe as the general flu shot is not nearly good enough for me.

And what exactly are you afraid of with the flu shot? (yes I will keep harping on this because fear based on utter nonsense puts public health at risk)

Ghoulish Delight · 10-23-2009, 04:13 PM

BTW, one more fact (true of both the H1N1 vaccine and the regular seasonal vaccine). The shot contains no live virus. The nasal spray does contain live virus, however it is a modified virus that is unable to incubate at body temperature so once administered, it dies.

innerSpaceman · 10-23-2009, 04:14 PM

Well, with alzheimer's kicking in at an alarming rate, I cannot recall the things I heard that put me off vaccines many years ago.

I also can't recall the things I learned about the benefits of vegetarianism, but I stored my considered opinion in my soul and I intend to be non-carnivoristic in my next life ... during which I will also not contract the flu.

bewitched · 10-23-2009, 05:30 PM

Olivia and I already got a regular flu shot. We will definitely get the H1N1 shot when it is available here (although, based on the diagnoses in O's school, we are well into H1N1 contagion). Unfortunately, from what I understand, you big city folks are getting the lion's share of the vaccine first, leaving us second rate cities to die off of in a pandemic so you can come in and take all of our land for your own pleasure.

Well...screw you too.

Disneyphile · 10-23-2009, 09:15 PM

CP - I'll ask Ken to find out about the vaccination for you. I think they've been getting them in limited supply, and he usually knows when shipments arrive.

Betty · 10-24-2009, 01:36 PM

News reports quoting how many deaths lately make me think about reconsidering.

BarTopDancer · 10-24-2009, 01:44 PM

How many people die from the regular flu?

H1N1 is a new strain of the flu and the news is making things worse by hyping up the panic levels.

View Poll Results: Do you want the H1N1 vaccine?
Yes, I'm in a high-risk group.	3	10.71%
Yes, I'm not high-risk, but I want it if I can get it.	7	25.00%
No, I don't think I need it.	14	50.00%
No, I think the vaccine could be harmful.	4	14.29%
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10-23-2009, 02:46 PM	#21
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Really? Reports??? In CHINA? Please forgive me for laughing at the thought of any of that being accurate. I'm not at all saying whatever anyone might find on the internet about vaccine dangers may be 98% tinfoil-hat stuff, but officialdom in China as source of reliable information is just as absurd.
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10-23-2009, 02:58 PM	#22
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Those numbers come from WHO, not from China's government. But like I said, that was just the first stat I found. Plenty more out there, the most important being that A) the H1N1 vaccine is being produced by the same producers, on the same equipment, with the same process that the "regular" vaccine has been for the past 30 years with no ill effects (Jenny McCarthy can go screw) and B) even with the accelerated time table to get the H1N1 on the market, there have been several different clinical trials already that have shown it to be as safe as the general flu shot. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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10-23-2009, 03:30 PM	#23
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Safe as the general flu shot is not nearly good enough for me. I'm not in a high-risk group, so I have the luxury of using my own anti-bodies, and I'm fine with that.
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10-23-2009, 04:13 PM	#25
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	BTW, one more fact (true of both the H1N1 vaccine and the regular seasonal vaccine). The shot contains no live virus. The nasal spray does contain live virus, however it is a modified virus that is unable to incubate at body temperature so once administered, it dies. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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10-23-2009, 04:14 PM	#26
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Well, with alzheimer's kicking in at an alarming rate, I cannot recall the things I heard that put me off vaccines many years ago. I also can't recall the things I learned about the benefits of vegetarianism, but I stored my considered opinion in my soul and I intend to be non-carnivoristic in my next life ... during which I will also not contract the flu.
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10-23-2009, 05:30 PM	#27
bewitched 101% Yummy! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I know Kung Fu. Posts: 1,413	Olivia and I already got a regular flu shot. We will definitely get the H1N1 shot when it is available here (although, based on the diagnoses in O's school, we are well into H1N1 contagion). Unfortunately, from what I understand, you big city folks are getting the lion's share of the vaccine first, leaving us second rate cities to die off of in a pandemic so you can come in and take all of our land for your own pleasure. Well...screw you too. __________________ ~Whitney Wondering about the future of Ellington Woodard's punk@ss sh!t.
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10-23-2009, 09:15 PM	#28
Disneyphile SQUIRREL! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On the curbside. Posts: 5,098	CP - I'll ask Ken to find out about the vaccination for you. I think they've been getting them in limited supply, and he usually knows when shipments arrive.
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10-24-2009, 01:36 PM	#29
Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	News reports quoting how many deaths lately make me think about reconsidering. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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10-24-2009, 01:44 PM	#30
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	How many people die from the regular flu? H1N1 is a new strain of the flu and the news is making things worse by hyping up the panic levels. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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