The Gay Thread - Page 67

Alex · 10-12-2010, 02:26 PM

Well, scaeagles can be happy to know that (I presume) people will be saying nice things about Republicans in this thread.

Though I assume the injunction will be overturned by the 9th.

JWBear · 10-12-2010, 02:59 PM

Well... some Republicans, maybe...

The ball is in the DOJ's court, as far as an appeal goes. If Obama is smart, he'll order the DOJ to not appeal.

Alex · 10-12-2010, 05:58 PM

He does have that option but I think the last two years has shown that he also believes strongly in the traditional obligation of the executive to defend duly enacted legislation regardless of his personal opinion on it.

So I'd be surprised (semi-pleasantly since I generally agree with that principal but also want to see DADT ended ASAP) if the administration doesn't appeal.

innerSpaceman · 10-12-2010, 07:07 PM

Oh yes, he's so smart, his justice department appealed the federal ruling declaring DOMA unconstitutional on the same day another federal judge issued a worldwide injunction halting enforcement of DADT after she declared that homophobic relic unconstitutional.

Brilliant way to alienate your progressive base 3 weeks before an electoral debacle. Oh, and he's certainly giving new meaning to the phrase "fierce advocate."

So yes, Obama is an ass, a backstabber, a liar, and a homophobic hypocrite. If anyone remembers the slur I used a few months back that nearly got me banned from here, I reiterate it in spirit.

In appealing the DOMA decision, which it is in no way obliged to do, the Justice Dept. declares it was just doing its job. Why do I hear that line with a German accent?

Alex · 10-12-2010, 07:41 PM

Because you disagree with him on this issue?

But this is a view of executive obligation that he expressed before he was elected so it isn't really a surprise to me.

That said, they could certainly sell it better. "We disagree with the law and hope that by appealing it to the highest authorities it will settle the issue nationally in favor of equal rights for everybody rather than just having a hodgepodge of individual regional rulings with minimal precedential weight."

innerSpaceman · 10-12-2010, 10:11 PM

Yes, Alex, because as a progressive and as a gay man, he's thrown me and mine under the bus at every opportunity. He's weak, and spineless, and a lying rat bastard and a bigot and a hypocrite and a sorry excuse for a man.

Alex · 10-12-2010, 10:27 PM

Wasn't arguing with you're reasons to be angry, just was answering your rhetorical question about the German accent.

You disagree strongly and so, as is your wont to lash out in the most extreme way possible, you go to the Nazi ****** realm of rhetoric.

BarTopDancer · 10-12-2010, 10:34 PM

Didn't iSm just Goodwin this thread?

Kevy Baby · 10-12-2010, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Didn't iSm just Goodwin this thread?

No; Alex did

Chernabog · 10-12-2010, 11:35 PM

Fvck Obama. Amazing how Dear Leader.. errr I mean fierce advocate drove me straight out of the Democratic Party. The DOJ is under NO obligation to defend this, and what is worse is that the DOJ defends EVERY SINGLE unconstitutional law that screws over the gays and chooses not to on other issues.

Even past presidents have chosen not to defend laws they didn't like: (posted from Americablog) George W. Bush (ACLU et al., v. Norman Y. Mineta - "The U.S. Department of Justice has notified Congress that it will not defend a law prohibiting the display of marijuana policy reform ads in public transit systems."), Bill Clinton (Dickerson v. United States - "Because the Miranda decision is of constitutional dimension, Congress may not legislate a contrary rule unless this Court were to overrule Miranda.... Section 3501 cannot constitutionally authorize the admission of a statement that would be excluded under this Court's Miranda cases."), George HW Bush (Metro Broadcasting v. Federal Communications Commission), and Ronald Reagan (INS v./ Chadha - "Chadha then filed a petition for review of the deportation order in the Court of Appeals, and the INS joined him in arguing that § 244(c)(2) is unconstitutional.")

Obama threw us under the bus -multiple times now. And those stupid A-list HRC gays who throw money at him and cheer him on at cocktail parties where he asks for more money. Screw those Uncle Tom bastards. They deserve to have this country run by the brain-dead willfully-ignorant teabaggers and their bigoted bible-thumping republican cousins. Take back America? Relocate me to Canada and you can have it.

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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Well... some Republicans, maybe... The ball is in the DOJ's court, as far as an appeal goes. If Obama is smart, he'll order the DOJ to not appeal. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	He does have that option but I think the last two years has shown that he also believes strongly in the traditional obligation of the executive to defend duly enacted legislation regardless of his personal opinion on it. So I'd be surprised (semi-pleasantly since I generally agree with that principal but also want to see DADT ended ASAP) if the administration doesn't appeal.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Oh yes, he's so smart, his justice department appealed the federal ruling declaring DOMA unconstitutional on the same day another federal judge issued a worldwide injunction halting enforcement of DADT after she declared that homophobic relic unconstitutional. Brilliant way to alienate your progressive base 3 weeks before an electoral debacle. Oh, and he's certainly giving new meaning to the phrase "fierce advocate." So yes, Obama is an ass, a backstabber, a liar, and a homophobic hypocrite. If anyone remembers the slur I used a few months back that nearly got me banned from here, I reiterate it in spirit. In appealing the DOMA decision, which it is in no way obliged to do, the Justice Dept. declares it was just doing its job. Why do I hear that line with a German accent?
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10-12-2010, 07:41 PM	#665
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Because you disagree with him on this issue? But this is a view of executive obligation that he expressed before he was elected so it isn't really a surprise to me. That said, they could certainly sell it better. "We disagree with the law and hope that by appealing it to the highest authorities it will settle the issue nationally in favor of equal rights for everybody rather than just having a hodgepodge of individual regional rulings with minimal precedential weight."
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10-12-2010, 10:11 PM	#666
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yes, Alex, because as a progressive and as a gay man, he's thrown me and mine under the bus at every opportunity. He's weak, and spineless, and a lying rat bastard and a bigot and a hypocrite and a sorry excuse for a man.
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10-12-2010, 10:27 PM	#667
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Wasn't arguing with you're reasons to be angry, just was answering your rhetorical question about the German accent. You disagree strongly and so, as is your wont to lash out in the most extreme way possible, you go to the Nazi ****** realm of rhetoric.
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10-12-2010, 11:35 PM	#670
Chernabog Biophage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Moon Posts: 2,679	Fvck Obama. Amazing how Dear Leader.. errr I mean fierce advocate drove me straight out of the Democratic Party. The DOJ is under NO obligation to defend this, and what is worse is that the DOJ defends EVERY SINGLE unconstitutional law that screws over the gays and chooses not to on other issues. Even past presidents have chosen not to defend laws they didn't like: (posted from Americablog) George W. Bush (ACLU et al., v. Norman Y. Mineta - "The U.S. Department of Justice has notified Congress that it will not defend a law prohibiting the display of marijuana policy reform ads in public transit systems."), Bill Clinton (Dickerson v. United States - "Because the Miranda decision is of constitutional dimension, Congress may not legislate a contrary rule unless this Court were to overrule Miranda.... Section 3501 cannot constitutionally authorize the admission of a statement that would be excluded under this Court's Miranda cases."), George HW Bush (Metro Broadcasting v. Federal Communications Commission), and Ronald Reagan (INS v./ Chadha - "Chadha then filed a petition for review of the deportation order in the Court of Appeals, and the INS joined him in arguing that § 244(c)(2) is unconstitutional.") Obama threw us under the bus -multiple times now. And those stupid A-list HRC gays who throw money at him and cheer him on at cocktail parties where he asks for more money. Screw those Uncle Tom bastards. They deserve to have this country run by the brain-dead willfully-ignorant teabaggers and their bigoted bible-thumping republican cousins. Take back America? Relocate me to Canada and you can have it. __________________ And they say back then our universe Was a coal black egg Until the god inside Burst out and from its shattered shell He made what became the world we know ~ Bjork (Cosmogony)
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