The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 663

JWBear · 10-15-2011, 08:18 AM

Very well said!

Betty · 10-15-2011, 08:53 AM

I know right! It's like we'd all collectively forgotten what that "American Dream", as he defined it, was something we should all be striving for, instead a race to the bottom of pay and benefits. It's not about socialism. I've passed it along via facebook. I hope everyone I know reads it.

But then I'm hoping the protests spread. I think it's exciting. I want to participate.

BarTopDancer · 10-15-2011, 08:33 PM

I want them to be more cohesive with a rational common goal instead of random demands and a splintered group.

I occupied my coworkers cube on Friday. We called it Occupy Eddy's Cube. My demands were: bring me chocolate every day, give me back my scissors, stop using all the tape and throw stuff over the wall at White Chocolate (another co-workers nickname) on demand. Then he told me to get out before he had me fired for loitering and trespassing and I reminded him the Tea Party was a fvcking felony. Then we laughed so hard we cried.

No wonder people think IT is a bunch of screw offs.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-20-2011, 06:33 AM

The net result of Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan, by income level (spoilerized for the sqeamish)

Spoiler:

source

Betty · 10-20-2011, 07:56 AM

alphabassettgrrl · 10-20-2011, 03:48 PM

Dang.

I mean, that's the point of why he wants it, and I knew flat taxes are regressive onto the poorer sections, but dude.

Alex · 10-20-2011, 04:55 PM

My one beef with that chart is that I'm seeing it misrepresented to show how regressive the 9-9-9 plan is. It doesn't really show that.

It shows that it is more regressive than the current tax plan. But that is essentially self-evident since it is the current Republican platform that the current tax code is too progressive. So obviously any Republican tax plan is going to be more regressive than the current structure and when expressed in gross dollars even a small proportional benefit to the top 0.1 is going to dwarf the changes for everybody else.

Disagree with it, but it isn't surprising.

Now, I would not be surprised at all to learn that the plan is horribly regressive (since it exempts from taxation massive financial transactions and transfers that are mostly engaged in by the wealthy), I just haven't seen that quantified in the things that many say demonstrate it.

Alex · 10-24-2011, 08:09 AM

From a single story on resignations in Bachmann's New Hampshire campaign staff.

Just seems like a good presentation of the rhetorical power of word choice. Both of these are completely true. One, to me anyway, such like much more of an indictment of Bachmann's future prospects:

Quote:

More than a third of Michele Bachmann's New Hampshire campaign team resigned last week...

Quote:

One of the two people who did resign...

Ghoulish Delight · 10-28-2011, 11:41 AM

HuffPo Bingo

I hit bingo by page 2!

3894 · 11-06-2011, 09:39 AM

The anti-Recall Walker thuggery begins. This morning in Wisconsin we woke to find: 1) our pumpkins smashed, 2) a carved wooden bear statue stolen (weighs about 400 lbs.), and 3) the Recall Walker bumper sticker ripped off the Jeep and stuck onto its windshield.

We filed a theft and vandalism report with the county sheriff.

If you see a spare bear in the vicinity of Central Wisconsin, it’s ours.

10-15-2011, 08:18 AM	#6621
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10-15-2011, 08:53 AM	#6622
Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	I know right! It's like we'd all collectively forgotten what that "American Dream", as he defined it, was something we should all be striving for, instead a race to the bottom of pay and benefits. It's not about socialism. I've passed it along via facebook. I hope everyone I know reads it. But then I'm hoping the protests spread. I think it's exciting. I want to participate. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	I want them to be more cohesive with a rational common goal instead of random demands and a splintered group. I occupied my coworkers cube on Friday. We called it Occupy Eddy's Cube. My demands were: bring me chocolate every day, give me back my scissors, stop using all the tape and throw stuff over the wall at White Chocolate (another co-workers nickname) on demand. Then he told me to get out before he had me fired for loitering and trespassing and I reminded him the Tea Party was a fvcking felony. Then we laughed so hard we cried. No wonder people think IT is a bunch of screw offs. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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10-20-2011, 06:33 AM	#6624
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	The net result of Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan, by income level (spoilerized for the sqeamish) Spoiler: source __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	Wow. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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10-20-2011, 03:48 PM	#6626
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	Dang. I mean, that's the point of why he wants it, and I knew flat taxes are regressive onto the poorer sections, but dude. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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10-20-2011, 04:55 PM	#6627
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	My one beef with that chart is that I'm seeing it misrepresented to show how regressive the 9-9-9 plan is. It doesn't really show that. It shows that it is more regressive than the current tax plan. But that is essentially self-evident since it is the current Republican platform that the current tax code is too progressive. So obviously any Republican tax plan is going to be more regressive than the current structure and when expressed in gross dollars even a small proportional benefit to the top 0.1 is going to dwarf the changes for everybody else. Disagree with it, but it isn't surprising. Now, I would not be surprised at all to learn that the plan is horribly regressive (since it exempts from taxation massive financial transactions and transfers that are mostly engaged in by the wealthy), I just haven't seen that quantified in the things that many say demonstrate it.
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10-28-2011, 11:41 AM	#6629
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	HuffPo Bingo I hit bingo by page 2! __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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11-06-2011, 09:39 AM	#6630
3894 Next Stop: Funkytown! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cheeselandia Posts: 1,907	The anti-Recall Walker thuggery begins. This morning in Wisconsin we woke to find: 1) our pumpkins smashed, 2) a carved wooden bear statue stolen (weighs about 400 lbs.), and 3) the Recall Walker bumper sticker ripped off the Jeep and stuck onto its windshield. We filed a theft and vandalism report with the county sheriff. If you see a spare bear in the vicinity of Central Wisconsin, it’s ours. __________________ "I didn't want to have to do this, but you leave me no choice. Here comes the smolder." - Flynn Rider, "Tangled"
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