Riding crop costumes go bye bye

[tracilicious]

I understand that viewpoint. I think it's unrealistic, because then they would have to hire primarily white people. I think it's realistic to cast a personallity type. They should definitely stick to that.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Pay scale is not relevant to whether someone is or is not an entertainer. Most entertainers make less than CMs.

Well, my knowledge is heresay on this account but I believe "entertainers" in the park are represented by a different union with diferent work rules and a higher payscale - or so it was relayed to me. But I may be mistaken on that account.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

While I agree that mysogenistic costumes are out of style, I remain convinced that role-appropriate costumes should remain ... and that means that costumes portraying an historical era do not have to conform to modern sensibilities. Dancing girls at the Golden Horseshoe, for instance, should not wear pants. Get my drift?

And I agree with you there - but it's been a long time since Dancing Girls graced the Golden Horseshoe. I'm hoping though that the new costumes will really be costumes and fit a place/era as many of the last generation miss the mark in their genericness. Ledderhosen on the Matterhorn!

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by Prudence

Wow.

Guess I won't be making that January meet after all. I'd hate to be the one responsible for shattering people's fantasy of a land of perfection.

Don't be silly! You'll come join all the rest of us who are perfectly happy to be in their own skin no matter what the shape or size. And, personally, I can't name one perfect person who posts on this board, but some may be less perfect than others. Not to worry, I'm one of those and won't hold anything against you.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by tracilicious

I understand that viewpoint. I think it's unrealistic, because then they would have to hire primarily white people. I think it's realistic to cast a personallity type. They should definitely stick to that.

Not necessarily, New Orlean's Square would be perfect for African and Carribean Americans, Latinos and Litinas would be fine in Frontierland. Adeventureland is certainly open to a wide variety of cutlural and ethnic backgrounds. Fantasyland and Tomorrowland are wide open as well - just becasue the park opened in 1955 doesn't mean it has to be stuck there.

[Capt Jack]

doesnt "perfect" sound incredibly tedious/boring anyway?

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Crap.

I'm an idiot, and I'm sorry.

I think iSm is doing a better job conveying what I couldn't. I consider Disneyland partly a show, and I have not problem with them hiring people that fit the "roles". That said, no matter how appealing the tour guide is, she better have the knowledge to do her job well.

My "flame" line was poorly worded and looking at it now I realize that it didn't not convey the joking attitude I meant it to.

Sorry to everyone!

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

Don't be silly! You'll come join all the rest of us who are perfectly happy to be in their own skin no matter what the shape or size. And, personally, I can't name one perfect person who posts on this board, but some may be less perfect than others. Not to worry, I'm one of those and won't hold anything against you.

I'm obviously far from perfect.

Prudence, I never meant to imply that people of certain shapes and sizes are not welcome at Disneyland. I feel I must apologize again, publicly, to you and Traci and anyone else who felt my remarks were out of line.

"To all who come to this happy place, welcome!"

[Hades]

Well, I'm going to throw my dos pesos in and just say that I am not dismayed, hurt or otherwise about the subject of this thread. I am of the large, strike that... very large persuation. I tip the scales at 298 pounds. Not healthy at all, as my doctor tells me. I'm constantly fighting the good fight to lose that weight as well. Needless to say, it makes costuming this body very difficult.

Working in the hotel shops, body image is not an issue, therefor the costumes don't have to be form flattering. Yet I would like to see the style of our costumes change for our department. We are a "Resort" destination (or they keep telling us that), and I think our costumes should reflect that feeling. I've long wanted the long sleeved mint and white striped shirt and gold and green ivy pattern tie we ware to go away. We were almost successful one year in having that happen, but Hideo Amamiya (president of the Disneyland Hotel back in the late '80's, early '90's) put a nix to that idea. We were so close to having a tasteful polo style shirt and complimenting slacks with embroidered DL Hotel logo on them. Hideo didn't have that image in his ideal for the hotel.

So we are still wearing the same costume that back in the mid '90's, Mark and Bryan of KLOS bestowed "Worse work costume" honors (even over the Hot Dog on a Stick franchise costume)! Yes, this costume is unflattering at ANY size! I know!

BTW, Ally, do you remember that one New Years Eve that they wanted you to wear the "Cigarette Girl" costume from the "Dick Tracy" stage show to sell glow ropes at the Hotel that evening?! You called in sick that night. What an opportunity lost!

[CoasterMatt]

Yeah, nothing motivates cast members like putting them in goofy (pardon the pun) looking costumes...

I feel like I should be bringing drinks with umbrellas to guests in my outfit...