A Harry Potter thread to pass the time

tracilicious · 05-18-2006, 06:03 PM

While I'm waiting for book seven, I've been rereading books four, five and six with an objective of figuring out if Snape is really on Voldemort's side. This thread doesn't need to be all about that, it is for all things HP.

Here's what I currently think about the Snape thing. I think that he is still loyal to Dumbledore, here's why:

In book four Snape is an enemy in the fake Moody's enemy mirror thing. If he was on Voldemort's side, he would be on the same side as Barty Crouch Jr.

Dumbledore says that he trusts him, and I think there must be some big reason. I don't think Dumbledore would take hiring a death eater lightly.

After he kills Dumbledore and he's running away from Harry, he doesn't hurt Harry, if fact he stops another death eater from hurting him. He uses the excuse that Voldemort wants him for himself, but I highly doubt that Voldemort would mind Harry being Crucio-ed a few times before Voldie kills him. Also, in his "I, the half blood prince" speech, he doesn't go on about Voldemort being the true ruler or whatever. In fact it seems like he is trying to teach Harry.

If Snape were truly on Voldie's side, I don't think he'd be able to resist a "ha-ha" type of speech to Dumbledore before he killed him. Instead, he just kills him and leaves. I think that Dumbledore made him do it in the same way that he made Harry promise to pour all the liquid down his throat in the cave.

My instinct says that Snape will play a large role in Voldie's downfall. I think he will help Harry in a crucial way.

I do wonder though about Snape's attachment to Draco Malfoy. The Malfoy's have always clearly been Voldemort supporters.

I'm sure I'll think of more, as I'm only halfway through book five this go round.

I must say that reading four, five and six in a row is pretty rough. So much happens in four, in five bad things happen to Harry with hardly a break, and Dumbledore dies in six.

I'm glad that it had been a while since I read Goblet of Fire when I saw the movie. They really are only the same on the very basicest of plot points. I did enjoy the movie, but the book is leagues better, IMO.

Anything to add? How long till book seven?

Alex · 05-18-2006, 06:05 PM

I disagree. And someday I'll read the books and then explain why.

tracilicious · 05-18-2006, 06:06 PM

Gemini Cricket · 05-18-2006, 06:30 PM

I think Snape is a good guy. He made an unbreakable promise to Dumbledore that he wouldn't give himself away as a spy. That's my theory.

Goblet of Fire is my favorite book, but upon seeing it three times, I must agree with iSm and say that 'Azkaban' was the best movie...

CoasterMatt · 05-18-2006, 06:34 PM

Wait till you see the dark ride...

Gemini Cricket · 05-18-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CoasterMatt

Wait till you see the dark ride...

What dark ride...?

CoasterMatt · 05-18-2006, 06:43 PM

Sorry, long running joke...

There WAS a Harry Potter special attraction at Warner Bros. Movie World in Australia, and thanks to the powers of the internets, a BUNCH of people were insisting that DISNEY was going to make a Harry Potter dark ride (never mind the fact that the property is Time Warner). A couple different manufacturers HAVE put forth Harry Potter dark ride concepts - in the U.S., if it does materialize anywhere, it would be Six Flags. I can't say anything else on this.

Ghoulish Delight · 05-18-2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CoasterMatt

(never mind the fact that the property is Time Warner).

The rumor is obviously a silly one...but this particular point is hardly a roadblock. Not when there's a Fox propery and a Paramount property already in the park.

sleepyjeff · 05-18-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tracilicious

After he kills Dumbledore

...but did he really kill Dumbledore? In Snapes opening lecture in book one he brags about being able to "stopper death
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CoasterMatt · 05-18-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

The rumor is obviously a silly one...but this particular point is hardly a roadblock. Not when there's a Fox propery and a Paramount property already in the park.

But Time Warner had already put out a statement that they had the theme park rights for the franchise, and they had no plans at the time to go ahead with the idea.

05-18-2006, 06:03 PM	#1
tracilicious avatar transition Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in-between Posts: 2,487	A Harry Potter thread to pass the time While I'm waiting for book seven, I've been rereading books four, five and six with an objective of figuring out if Snape is really on Voldemort's side. This thread doesn't need to be all about that, it is for all things HP. Here's what I currently think about the Snape thing. I think that he is still loyal to Dumbledore, here's why: In book four Snape is an enemy in the fake Moody's enemy mirror thing. If he was on Voldemort's side, he would be on the same side as Barty Crouch Jr. Dumbledore says that he trusts him, and I think there must be some big reason. I don't think Dumbledore would take hiring a death eater lightly. After he kills Dumbledore and he's running away from Harry, he doesn't hurt Harry, if fact he stops another death eater from hurting him. He uses the excuse that Voldemort wants him for himself, but I highly doubt that Voldemort would mind Harry being Crucio-ed a few times before Voldie kills him. Also, in his "I, the half blood prince" speech, he doesn't go on about Voldemort being the true ruler or whatever. In fact it seems like he is trying to teach Harry. If Snape were truly on Voldie's side, I don't think he'd be able to resist a "ha-ha" type of speech to Dumbledore before he killed him. Instead, he just kills him and leaves. I think that Dumbledore made him do it in the same way that he made Harry promise to pour all the liquid down his throat in the cave. My instinct says that Snape will play a large role in Voldie's downfall. I think he will help Harry in a crucial way. I do wonder though about Snape's attachment to Draco Malfoy. The Malfoy's have always clearly been Voldemort supporters. I'm sure I'll think of more, as I'm only halfway through book five this go round. I must say that reading four, five and six in a row is pretty rough. So much happens in four, in five bad things happen to Harry with hardly a break, and Dumbledore dies in six. I'm glad that it had been a while since I read Goblet of Fire when I saw the movie. They really are only the same on the very basicest of plot points. I did enjoy the movie, but the book is leagues better, IMO. Anything to add? How long till book seven? __________________ And now Harry, let us step into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure! - Albus Dumbledore
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I think Snape is a good guy. He made an unbreakable promise to Dumbledore that he wouldn't give himself away as a spy. That's my theory. Goblet of Fire is my favorite book, but upon seeing it three times, I must agree with iSm and say that 'Azkaban' was the best movie...
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CoasterMatt BRAAAAAAAINS! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: One Step Beyond... Posts: 8,802	Sorry, long running joke... There WAS a Harry Potter special attraction at Warner Bros. Movie World in Australia, and thanks to the powers of the internets, a BUNCH of people were insisting that DISNEY was going to make a Harry Potter dark ride (never mind the fact that the property is Time Warner). A couple different manufacturers HAVE put forth Harry Potter dark ride concepts - in the U.S., if it does materialize anywhere, it would be Six Flags. I can't say anything else on this. __________________ Do you like my photography? Visit photosbymatt.tumblr.com to purchase prints!
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