Pirates open now

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

The guns were only gone for a couple years and the pirates are still chasing food.

Are you sure? (about the pirates)


But in anycase, the point remains that only some changes are accepted over the long term.

[Alex]

I haven't been on it so I'm not sure. But Adrienne Vincent-Phoenix has and she says they're still chasing food.

Name some 20 year old changes that are still widely complained about? By someone other than merlinjones.

But my point was that eventually these changes will become the only way that the majority of people remember the ride and as it calcifies in their brains that way they'll lament major changes.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

I haven't been on it so I'm not sure. But Adrienne Vincent-Phoenix has and she says they're still chasing food.

Name some 20 year old changes that are still widely complained about? By someone other than merlinjones.

But my point was that eventually these changes will become the only way that the majority of people remember the ride and as it calcifies in their brains that way they'll lament major changes.

It's the fatalistic note the OP sounded that fell flat for me. Yes change is inevitable and it can be for the best but that's not always the case and even if a bad change lasts for 20 Years and people grow up with it that does not make it a good thing. People complained about the river boat guns, and the PC makeover of pirates and now some of those changes have been reversed.

[Alex]

I was making no comment on the quality of the change. Just that, for the most part, people seem to think that whatever Disneyland was when they were 12 is the best it ever was (I know, that isn't true for everybody or for all things; thus it is a generalization).

After enough time has passed if you asked the average person whether they should put Country Bear back in their theater I posit the answer would be no simply because for the average person they'll only have known it as Pooh and that is comfortable for them.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

I was making no comment on the quality of the change. Just that, for the most part, people seem to think that whatever Disneyland was when they were 12 is the best it ever was (I know, that isn't true for everybody or for all things; thus it is a generalization).

After enough time has passed if you asked the average person whether they should put Country Bear back in their theater I posit the answer would be no simply because for the average person they'll only have known it as Pooh and that is comfortable for them.

Alex likes Pooh.... (Sorry my mind is stuck in another thread...)

As long as you will agree it's a generalization I'm good. There are still certianly some things (peoplemover, subs..) that people who never experienced still miss.

[Not Afraid]

I am soooooo glad I didn't go to the Park last night. There's a report on MC that was copied from a post on MP that tells an absolute horror story of people being trapped on the ride for 90 minutes, people having panic attacks, children soiling themselves and SAP guests being carried out. Just the thought of being in that situation makes me shudder. I know I probably would've missed the terror but what an awful situation.

[Alex]

I would point out that there are about five other accounts in the MP thread from people who were on the ride then and nobody else seems to have experienced anything of the sort.

[Not Afraid]

That's good to hear, because the account I read was just awful.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

...an absolute horror story of people being trapped on the ride for 90 minutes...

Well, it's not like we didn't cause that at the Pirates send-off Lot meet!

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Well, it's not like we didn't cause that at the Pirates send-off Lot meet!

Heh - yeah