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I heard that water came in on deck 9.
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Actually, this supports my theory of inertia doing the majority of the damage. Pool water was seen flowing down the stairs and elevators. The stair towers and elevators are forward and abaft of the pools. If it was simply a matter of a tilt to one side, the water from the pools would simply have gone over the side of the ship. For the water to flow perpendicular to the angle of tilt would mean that there were other forces at play. The list was caused by the ship making a sudden 180 degree turn at high speed. Inertia would cause people and objects to move away from the turn at a tangent. Unlike planes, which bank into a turn, ships list away from a turn - i.e. a turn to starboard will cause the ship to list to port. The combination of tilt and inertia would make the list seem much worse than it was.
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Whoops- I think I must have clicked on the wrong pic- ty, JW.
Whatever the degree, it had to have been horrible to be there. I guess one gal was on a compensatory cruise from another cruise mishap earlier this year- wonder if she'll try it yet again? |
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Are you sure about that? I didn't see that in any of the links I've read. Can you link me?
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After further reading it seems that the ship was not making a 180 turn, just following its normal course when it listed. The cruise critic thread did reference a prior incident in which a ship did a sharp turn and listed. Maybe that's what you're thinking of?
I haven't found any news of how the injured people are.
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This sorry excuse for a news article says that there was no head count after the incident.
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Yes, I'm quite aware of the incident on the Sapphire Princess. She made a sudden 180 degree turn with the exact same results. In that instance, however, the turn was deliberate – they were returning to port because a passenger had a heart attack. The exact cause of the Crown Princess’s sudden and unplanned turn is still unknown.
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As far as emergency procedures… they were followed, and avoiding a panic is one of the things the crew is trained to do. No one wants a ship full of panicked passengers. Things would have gotten real ugly. From all accounts, the crew performed admirably. I also want to throw a little reality check in to all of this. The ship only listed 15 degrees. I’m sorry, but that’s not really very much. In the days before stabilizers, passenger liners would routinely roll that much or more. In heavy weather, the Queen Mary could roll as much as 30 degrees to either side – back and forth – for hours! Very few people were injured because the interiors were designed for this. Things were bolted down. There were handrails. Shop displays were glued down. Etc. I blame the injuries on the failure of modern cruise ship interior to realize that these are ships, first and foremost, not hotels. Nothing that floats remains rock steady – ever.
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