With Sept 11 coming up...

[FEJ]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Hehehe, maybe we should have kept it all in the general political thread anyway.


That'll show FEJ not to start any new threads 'round here, young upstart.

Show me nothing. If it gets people discussing on a discussion board, then I will continue.

[Tramspotter]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I haven't seen the evidence on that either way, I admit ... but in a common sensical, on-its-face way ... I am cynical about those buildings simply collapsing because of the collision damage, heat and fire.


I witnessed the Towers being built on a weekly basis. I've seen their skeletons and such, and I just don't see how damage at the tops could bring the Towers down.

The changes in how the weight is distributed would have enough sheer force to easily implode a steel frame building regardless of size. The shaping charges in building demolition alone would do little damage even if put all together and exploded in the middle of one floor but remove enough structural integrity by cutting key supports brings a cascading amount of eponental pressure to bear.

And putting heat and fire as equals is incorrect
the fire triangle is: heat fuel and oxygen this creates
fire.

The jetfuel and office enterior (Fuel), impact (Heat) and gaping hole produced by the collision damage provided enough (oxygen) to make a largescale blast furnace wich could indeed melt steel supports which BTW only need to be weakened not cut in-order to cause an implosion.

I thought you guys believed in science. If benifit of the doubt is too much to wrap your bean around try out try Occam's Razor

[Morrigoon]

I have a copy of the 9/11 documentary made by the two French guys who were in the WTC. That's the only one I ever *need* to watch. It's stressful enough.

[Alex]

This new book may be of interest. I haven't read it yet but several people I know have and say it is a good refutation of the common 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Debunking 9/11 Myths

It is a much more detailed expansion on the Popular Mechanics article I believe I linked to above.

[Alex]

If you have 45 minutes you may find this debate between the makers of Loose Change and the editors of the Popular Mechanics pieces on the myths of 9/11.

Of course, it probably won't change any minds. It was sent to me by a believer in the conspiracy who thought it was compelling evidence of how wrong the Popular Mechanics people are. While I just thought the Loose Change people looked silly.

It is somewhat slanted in presentation since clips from Loose Change are shown with all the editing and music and leading questions that allows while in response the Popular Mechanics guys had no props or presentations.

[Stan4dSteph]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

I have a copy of the 9/11 documentary made by the two French guys who were in the WTC. That's the only one I ever *need* to watch. It's stressful enough.

Did you (or anyone else) watch the updated version this past Sunday? I missed it as I was on the road and hadn't set the DVR. Just curious to know what was updated.