Ulrich Kicked out of Tour

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by TicTocDragon

Im so livid about this. These guys think they can stay one step ahead of the doping controls. It is insanely stupid that they try with the technology of today. There have been situations where Testerone levels in a human being are unusually high. Gert Jan Theunisse had the same situation. All in all,Floyd should have his trophy stripped and Perriero should be crowned winner, if this is the case. Rant over!

Innocent until proven guilty?

[NickO'Time]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Innocent until proven guilty?

Let me elaborate.(sp) I think that Landis may have an unusual amount of Testosterone. Which is common in a couple of cyclists over the years. Anything over 51 percent of (Testosterone) is an alarm for the doping controls. His may be higher naturally. But on the other sides of the coin(s), It is getting old to see the cyclists constantly under the scope. As well the cyclists who do come up positive. Tyler Hamilton was on the list as well that Ullrich and Basso were on, so he sealed his fate for sure on that one.
I was a bit hasty, but righly so with so many cyclists being busted lately. I had a friend drop by and tell me about it. So I was not happy about it.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by TicTocDragon

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...act/index.html

Check out this link. Interesting.

WOW. Tough read. They thyroid thing is interesting as well. I know that, with thyroid problems, your whole endochrine system is effected and things can easily get wacky. Damn.

[NickO'Time]

Quote:

Here's a possible explanation from John Eustis on ESPN sports talk show:

He failed the test NOT because the testosterone was too high but because the ration of testosterone to epitestosterone(sp?) was too high
and the numbers don't look right to the observers because the ration came out as 11:: 1..... anything over 6::1 is too high.... and again the sample wasn't because the testosterone was so high but because the other component was incredibly low ---- the "hope" is that this artificially low reading might have been the result of all the cortisone shots he takes for the hip ... that's one possibility

another possibility is that he could take a complete endocrine test which might show that he naturally produces these ratios

of course, it doesn't look good to me that he's been tested many times and this result didn't come up before...

Eustis also said the French Press was in heaven, sort of like us Conservatives when Bill Clinton got caught ----- personally, I'd be the first to jump on an anti-France rant at this point, but I have to admire the two French boys in the top 10 as well as the French stage victories.... their best showing in years?

TreZ

This might shed more light on the situation. Its froma local club in Stockton.

[scaeagles]

More news - if you can trust the source. I hate the usage of unnamed sources with leaks.

Synthetic testosterone in his system

[Not Afraid]

Not good news.

Results from the B test were positive and Phonak has dismissed him and will not defend him in his legal battle.

The American's Phonak team dismissed Landis on Saturday when it was confirmed he produced levels more than twice the legal limit after stage 17.

[wendybeth]

Tori has Phonak digital hearing aids. That has nothing to do with this conversation, but I felt I should contribute something.

[NirvanaMan]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

When I saw the thread title, I thought it was going to be about Lars Ulrich being kicked out of the latest Metallica Tour

Me too!!! That's why I clicked.

[CoasterMatt]

I thought Phonak was some kind of Czech magician...

[NickO'Time]

Yes and the trophy and title are being handed over to Oscar Perirero