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Old 08-10-2006, 02:28 PM   #81
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Whenever I say that bringing democracy was a major reason everyone here tells me it was all about WMD. What it was about was WMD and repeated cease fire violations. I will be he first to admit that bringing democracy to the region was an almost immediate afterthought.
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:30 PM   #82
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According to the report I watched on KTLA this morning, yes.
This is not what they're saying up here:

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Once passengers clear a security checkpoint, they can buy beverages in the airport's concession areas -- but won't be allowed to carry them onto planes, Parker said.
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:33 PM   #83
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There's a very simple solution for this water problem, really. How much does a case of water cost at Costco? I was there Saturday buying some and it was $5 for a case of 32 16oz water bottles. That's about $20 to give a full plane a bottle of water as they board.
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So are they going to re-screen you before you get on the plane? What if you take some kind of liquid perscription medication? These are the things I sit around and wonder about.
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So are they going to re-screen you before you get on the plane? What if you take some kind of liquid perscription medication? These are the things I sit around and wonder about.
Prescriptions can be carried on provided they are in their original containers. Although I don't know how they're going to manage that, because short of using it how do you prove that the labelled bottled contains the listed prescription?
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Better source for confirming that beverages purchased inside the security zone will not be permitted on board:

From the TSA website --
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I looked on TSA but apparently not in the right place. Thanks for the info.
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Would you consider Switzerland isolationist? I like Switzerland.
Not Isolationist as much as a remote non-player

They had no problem melting down Ann franks charm braclet and banking it to keep the peace... of course I'm speaking figuratively, although they were permitted to maintain "nutrality" don't hold to it too romanticaly they were most certainly Germanys Bitches.
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The purpose of terrorism is to have exactly this effect. That is how the terrorists win, when we are so afraid that we are willing to alter all that is good about America to make it "safer", while giving up what makes us "free".

We cannot defeat terrorism. It is a tactic that will be used so long as it has its desired effect. And the effect that it has had today only reenforces that it can be successful even when a specific plot has been disrupted. It will be used again and again and no amount of "spreading freedom" in Iraq will lessen it. It will only stop being used when it no longer works. When we say a collective "fvck you" to the terrorists and refuse to change our lives regardless of their threats.

I would say that even though this attempt was thwarted, it is still a victory for the terrorists. They have once again brought our airports to a standstill and spread fear throughout the citizens.
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I looked on TSA but apparently not in the right place. Thanks for the info.
Well it changes every 20 minutes. Latest word is that they WILL be doing double screening starting tomorrow - once at the xray and once at the gate.

I don't know why they're acting like people are such idiots. ZOMG! This woman didn't throw out her lipstick! She's holding up the whole line! I don't think of my lipstick as liquid or gel. Same with toothpaste. Yes, it would be ideal if everyone were on the same page. It would also be helpful if "they" - port authority, TSA, airlines, whomever - made it clear what "they" are considering liquids/gels. Deoderant? Sure. Shampoo? Sure. Sunscreen? Absolutely. Mascara? I'll buy that, even. Powder eye shadow or face powder? How is that a liquid or gel? Why is the local news acting like people are complete morons for not knowing this?

At some point keeping me "safe" will become so inconvenient for me that I'll no longer travel.
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