Nothing like proving the point-

[Nephythys]

Disagree- make a negative comment or a negative quote and they demand your death and act out in violence- sure, try to convince me this is a "peaceful" religion.

Pope must die

Pope burned in effigy

Murdered Nun, link to Pope's comments?

Militants vow war

Plus there have been many more in the last few days- how exactly does this help their cause? In my view- it proves exactly what the Pope said- and all he was doing was quoting someone from a very long time ago.

(bear in mind- I am not Catholic- this is not defense of the Pope, or my own religious protectionism- this is my view of the Muslim "faith")

[Not Afraid]

Peaceful religion? There are extremists of all types in all relgions. I wouldn't base my judgements of all Muslims based on Muslim extremists.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Yup, clearly reactionary violence is a uniquely Muslim trait.

[Nephythys]

I did not say any of that- but in modern times there is NO other religion that reacts with so much violence and mob action when confronted by what they deem an insult.

Christians (as much as people might deride them) do not rise up and burn people in effigy and demand their deaths- nor do Catholics, Baptists or other large religious groups.

This is NOT just fringe-

How do people live in a world of moral relativism?

[CoasterMatt]

I've been to North Ireland, and know plenty of people that would disagree with that statement.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

This is NOT just fringe-

If 1.2 billion or so muslims were rioting, I think we'd know about it.

It may be one of the most well organized extremist movements currently (having surpassed the IRA, for example), but it remains an extremist movement.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by CoasterMatt

I've been to North Ireland, and know plenty of people that would disagree with that statement.

heh- good point. Did not think of that- thanks

It is a shame that the most vocal part of this religion is a bunch of violent wackos who prove the point of the quote the Pope stated.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

I'm with NA and GD on this point. Also, may I ask why you put Muslim "faith" in quotes? I'm not baiting, I'm curious.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

I'm with NA and GD on this point. Also, may I ask why you put Muslim "faith" in quotes? I'm not baiting, I'm curious.

I'm not going to bother lying- I am not going to pretend I respect this particular faith. I don't.

....and I know you were not baiting me, it's a fair question and I am being honest about it. Anyone who does want to bait me or judge me- save it.

However- note that I did not say AL Muslims- anywhere. So I am not judging all of any group- but I am pointing out that these actions seem to prove the quote from the Pope.

....and I never said reactionary violence was a Muslim trait- I said there were not other large religions who turned to mob violence when confronted with something they did not like (recall what some Muslims did about those cartoons in Denmark)- but then I conceded that the violence in Ireland is an example of another large group reacting with violence.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

However- note that I did not say AL Muslims- anywhere. So I am not judging all of any group-

Buy you blame it on the religion, not the individuals.

For example, "try to convince me this is a "peaceful" religion." You're condemning an entire religion based on the actions of a small percentage of its followers.

but I am pointing out that these actions seem to prove the quote from the Pope.

All it proves to me is that Muslims are subject to the same human failings as any group of people.

....and I never said reactionary violence was a Muslim trait- I said there were not other large religions who turned to mob violence when confronted with something they did not like (recall what some Muslims did about those cartoons in Denmark)- but then I conceded that the violence in Ireland is an example of another large group reacting with violence.

I can't imagine that that's the first time someone's mentioned the IRA in a discussion with you. Heck, I'm quite certain I've used it as an example several times before.

But if you'd like more examples, look up "Army of God", "Lord's Resistance Army", "Nagaland Rebels", "Christian Identity", "Westboro Baptist Church"...