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Originally Posted by The Shadoe

I hope that no one here honestly thinks that Iraqis are better off under a dictator? I hear a lot of that.

You do, huh? From where, pray tell? From your right wing sources who continually spout what liberals are supposedly all about?

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

If you blanked out the names of the countries, you'd think the articles were about Iraq.

Only if you do no more research that what you've shown.

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

It took 14 YEARS after we gained independance from the British to get things going.

Sure did... and we didn't even have 3 major tribes trying to kill each other over religious fantasies.

Also, if I recall, our founding fathers were careful to provide us some limits on government as it applies to religion.

See? Our situations are exactly alike, aren't they?

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

I'm not going to get into a debate about whether we should've gone to war in Iraq or not, but we are there now, and it would be disastrous if we pulled out of Iraq now.

Why not have the debate? We certainly didn't have it when all this began, did we? No, all debate was shut down be calling people treasonous and Saddam lovers for daring to disagree with the President. And notice, I'm not giving the democrats a pass here for letting it happen.

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

This is a long process, and for our sake, the citizens of Iraq's sake, and the Middle East's sake, it is vitally important that this works.

Yes, it's a long process no matter how you go about it. We had begun the process by advocating regime change through education, sanctions and diplomacy. And guess what? It was working. Where are Saddam's weapons, Shadoe? Where is Saddam's connection to Al Queda, Shadoe?

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

Laura Ingraham recently went all out on the Today show, criticizing them for not telling the whole story, not talking to the soldiers, and not talking to the citizens.

Yeah, I saw her performance and it was disgusting. Perhaps Ms. Ingraham is unaware (geez what an understatement) that 80 journalists have been killed while working on the story that is Iraq. Perhaps they were all shot on their hotel balconies which Ms Ingraham claims they work from.

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

I urge everyone to read a political science textbook.

Did everyone enjoy this comment as much as I did??

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

What I described really isn't at all fundamentally different from our own situation when we were founded, Japan, or Germany

... and that one??

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

Well there must be lots, because Michelle Malkin wrote a whole book about it. I recommend you at least take a look at Unhinged.

I love love LOVE it when people pull out Malkin and the rest of the bomb throwers and start parading them around as some standard of honesty, because usually you'll get some thin shred of information maquerading as the truth, i.e. Shadoe's next comment.

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

I also remember Malkin talking about him wrestling a Dean supporter to the ground at a Kerry rally

Did Malkin also tell you the rest of the story? Did Malkin tell you the manager of the facility approached the heckler and asked him several times to tone it down, and that it was only after the heckler started throwing punches at the people around him that Franken took him down? No? I wonder why not.
And just in case you're tempted to comment on the heckler's speech rights being trampled, please remember that citizens who disagree with President Bush are generally not even allowed in the same hall Dear Leader lies from.

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

And in general, I end up leaning towards the conservatives on most issues?

I used to, as well, before conservative thought went to hell in a handbasket.

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

Why? Because in general they offer up substance. Not just rhetoric, but actual substance.

Malkin and Coulter? (And yes, I realize Malkin and Coulter are NOT republican leaders. I continue to harp on them because YOU brought them into the conversation as examples of conservative truth)

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

I find it difficult to back many of the liberal positions on issues where in the end they had egg smeared in their face because of all the foul-drawl that is put forward. It seems like their bigger agenda is to attack Republicans.

Did you just wake up? Have you completely missed the concerted effort in recent decades to stamp out liberalism completely? Sorry, my bad... you probably did.
And what of this so-called conservative substance?
Fiscal responsibility? I usually try not to laugh directly in someone's face, but that may be unavoidable in this case.
Government out of people lives? Ditto
Giving 8 cell blastocysts the same rights as a functioning human being?

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

I absolutely don't mean to come across as being offensive

I see. We'll just call that an unfortunate side effect and move on

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

Calling someone a liar is a serious accusation

More serious than accusing someone of treason? One loses you respect; the other can get you killed.