Not too early is it? 2008 Presidential fun

[Alex]

Yes, I am geneally opposed to initiatives and referenda on principal except on very local levels (like socialism, direct democracy is a form of government I think only works well in very small units).

I would support prescreening of propositions and referenda for basic constitutionality but many of the problems they cause is that they are generally poorly thought out in their implications, inappropriately handcuff the proper working of our representative government, and conflict with existing law.

[scaeagles]

Politics is a dirty game. Any dirt the Republicans might think they have on a dem isn't going to come out until that person wins the nomination. Any dirt coming out right now is party on party. I have no doubt that anyone making up Obama stories isn't in the republican camp. If he wins the nomination, sure they'll be digging and even making up dirt. But why do it now? No reason when the dem candidates are going to rip each other apart trying to get it for themselves.

And the same goes with the republicans. No reason for dems to spread dirt at present. They'll start soon enough ripping each other apart.

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I have no doubt that anyone making up Obama stories isn't in the republican camp. If he wins the nomination, sure they'll be digging and even making up dirt. But why do it now? No reason when the dem candidates are going to rip each other apart trying to get it for themselves.

Just for grins, what do you have to base that on?

My best guess is that you were very young during the Watergate era, the very apex of republican trickery, but I'm sure you've done at least some reading on the subject.

Every heard of Donald Segretti?

Ever heard of the Canuck Letter?

Still "have no doubt"?

Ready... Set... Spin!

[€uroMeinke]

Maybe it's time Larry Agran give it another go - he was another big city mayor after all

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Maybe it's time Larry Agran give it another go - he was another big city mayor after all

WHOA! Time warp!

[BarTopDancer]

I would just like to point out that of right this moment Alex and iSm have a mere 100 posts difference in their post count.

Carry on.

[Alex]

Fine, I'll shut up.

[Strangler Lewis]

The initiative process contributes to the gridlock. I believe California's initiative system was supposed to be the populist exception to alleviate ills caused by a government that was too responsible to moneyed interests. Now, powerful interests on both sides of any issue dominate the initiative process, which lessens the "burden" on our elected officials.

[BarTopDancer]

Shall we add you to the no sense of humor list?

I need you around. I have another logic class coming my way.






removed smilies to not offend Alex any more.

[Nephythys]

Visible Mojo to Alex- for the most thoughtful reponses on LoT-especially in the Grind.

You make a good grown up- great role model for others.