Colbert vs O'Reilly

[Gemini Cricket]

We should not forget that O'Reilly got his big break from being on Inside Edition. A huge tabloid show. I guess he's still shoveling the same smell now...

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Oops, the other link was messed up.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ECbO6jZRz...elated&search=

[NirvanaMan]

Originally Posted by Prudence

So did Paris Hilton, but that doesn't mean she should be admired or emulated.

Who said anything about being admired or emulated? Apparently non sequitors are clearly mojo worthy.

Anyway, back to the actual point, which was the comments relating to his lack of intelligence. I still argue that anyone who has achieved such overwhelming success and wealth in life on their own is clearly not lacking in the brains department. If he is stupid then the rest of us merely average folks must be bordering on idiot.

Paris inherited fame and wealth from daddy. Quite a different story.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by NirvanaMan

Who said anything about being admired or emulated? Apparently non sequitors are clearly mojo worthy.

Anyway, back to the actual point, which was the comments relating to his lack of intelligence. I still argue that anyone who has achieved such overwhelming success and wealth in life on their own is clearly not lacking in the brains department. If he is stupid then the rest of us merely average folks must be bordering on idiot savant.

Paris inherited fame and wealth from daddy. Quite a different story.

I agree, O'Reilly isn't stupid.... Just an a$$hole.

[Not Afraid]

O'Reilly's just another famous person I've never heard of.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Part II of the Factor:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XEdomxMy4...elated&search=

You guys HAVE TO watch this. I don't watch Fox News, ever, so I had no clue that this was the type of thing being shown. I mean, they're explaining to the audience what humor is. Are Fox News watchers idiots? Why wouldn't they understand why the Colbert Report and Daily Show are funny to other people? These people I'm watching have words like "News Analyst" under their names on the screen. It's horrifying.

I'm feeling Idiocracy closing in on me.

[wendybeth]

Bernard Goldberg is a doofus.



(Could O'Reilly be any more of a pompous ass?)

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by NirvanaMan

Paris inherited fame and wealth from daddy. Quite a different story.

Um, you can inherit wealth, but I'm pretty sure you can't inherit fame.

[NirvanaMan]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Um, you can inherit wealth, but I'm pretty sure you can't inherit fame.

Hmm, I think I disagree. There are plenty of famous folks out there that are famous simply because they were the son/daughter/wife/husband what-have-you of someone who was accomplished. The aforementioned Hilton sisters, Lisa Marie Presley, most of the Kennedy's, etc, etc....Hell, babies are now famous before they have had a chance to utter a single word. Just look at the children of Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes, Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie and the media frenzies that surrounded them.

I'm sure we could come up with many more examples. Pop culture and trash journalism may be the source of the fame, but it is fame inherited none the less.

[NirvanaMan]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I mean, they're explaining to the audience what humor is.

Hmm, I just watched it and did not take that away at all. Maybe we both need a second viewing. I didn't see them explaining what humor is to the audience. Rather they were analyzing the success of the shows, specifically focusing on what makes them the media darlings that they are.

Looking at the success of Fox News, the data shows that while viewership between Fox and CNN is evenly split amongst independants, conservatives have increasingly fled to FN as an alternative to what is considered by many to be a liberal bias among mass media.

http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2...?cat=3&media=5

That said, while these two comedy central shows are popular among folks our age, the majority of the Fox News viewership may not be familiar...thus necessitating some explanation of what the shows are about. These two shows can be rather polarizing and are clearly left-leaning. I remember a time when the Daily Show was not like that, and personally I found it more amusing. I've gotten bored of the Bush schtick and would welcome something, anything else. Sure Bush provides them with lots of material, but damn, how many times can you tell the same joke? I guess it works with their demo though. I just prefer a bit of balance and variety myself, so I stopped watching.

What also is forgotten by many is that Fox News is more than just opinion shows such as O'Reilly or Hannity and Colmes. The majority of their broadcast day is just regular old news coverage. I think many seem to associate the network with one or two shows and forget about the rest of the programming schedule.

I used to be a huge fan of Fox News back in the day when they first launched...when I was back in college. It was an interesting alternative to the network and CNN news feeds, and tended to show angles or stories that were overlooked by all other media outlets. Over the past few years I have become more and more turned off as the network has become more sensationalistic and downright silly at time with ridiculous promo's and graphics. Seems a bit dumbed down at times. Got to be too much like CNN to me. Oddly enough, I like CNN international. Very different approach.

Anyway I went off on three or seven tangents. Original point - I don't think they were explaining what humor is and didn't see that clip as highly evidenced of the encroachment of stupid as you did, given the strong possibility that the majority of their audience may not be familiar with the Daily show and colbert report.

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