Not too early is it? 2008 Presidential fun

[Alex]

I'm not selling that BS. But I don't think "everybody does it" is a very good justification.

To the extent that our government forces religious morality on the population of our country, that is the role of Congress (where it can be debated, minority voices can be more prominently heard, and the sentiment of constituencies are more directly felt) and not the president.

I by no means claim that government should not be making moral decisions. That is pretty much all government does. But as much as possible those moral decisions don't belong in the executive branch of government.

[Not Afraid]

I think I have a crush on Alex.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

I'm not selling that BS. But I don't think "everybody does it" is a very good justification.

To the extent that our government forces religious morality on the population of our country, that is the role of Congress (where it can be debated, minority voices can be more prominently heard, and the sentiment of constituencies are more directly felt) and not the president.

I by no means claim that government should not be making moral decisions. That is pretty much all government does. But as much as possible those moral decisions don't belong in the executive branch of government.

I never said everyone does it- but for anyone (not you in particular) to act as if his choices are somehow outrageous because of his faith is IMO ridiculous.

[BarTopDancer]

Things that are having a hard[er] time in this country because of the the President's beliefs:

Stem cell research
A Woman's right to choose
Equal rights for gays

[wendybeth]

There's also that pesky messianic complex he has.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Things that are having a hard[er] time in this country because of the the President's beliefs:

Stem cell research
A Woman's right to choose
Equal rights for gays

This may be true...but if he didn't believe the way he does would he have been elected President to begin with....wouldn't those who put him in office have voted for someone else who had those beliefs?

Kind of a chicken/egg question I suppose.

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

This may be true...but if he didn't believe the way he does would he have been elected President to begin with....wouldn't those who put him in office have voted for someone else who had those beliefs?

Kind of a chicken/egg question I suppose.

I notice you kept my observation out of that equation.

[CoasterMatt]

Forward, backward, inward, outward
Come and join the chase!
Nothing could be drier
Than a jolly caucus-race.
Backward, forward, outward, inward
Bottom to the top,
Never a beginning There can never be a stop
To skipping, hopping, tripping
Fancy free and gay,
I started it tomorrow and will finish yesterday.
Round and round and round we go
And dance for evermore,
Once we were behind
But now we find we are
Forward, backward, inward, outward,
Come and join the chase!
Nothing could be drier than a jolly caucus-race.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

I notice you kept my observation out of that equation.

Still trying to wrap my brain around it

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Still trying to wrap my brain around it

Welcome to my world.