Not too early is it? 2008 Presidential fun

[Nephythys]

No a fetus is not born.

Yes it is alive- which is not arguable. In every way it is clearly alive- otherwise abortion would be a non-issue. To pretend it is not alive is a logical and mental fallacy that takes super human feat to complete- scientifically it is clearly alive. DNA would show it's human- the REAL issue is that you and others like you think the will of the mother trumps all- and she can decide to TERMINATE (which you don't need to do if it is not alive) that life whenever she feels like it- for any reason.

It's not life at issue- it's personhood. Something I think some of you only bestow on people once they breathe air and vote democrat.



(and I don't have a frelling clue who Huckabee is- and I don't care)

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

(and I don't have a frelling clue who Huckabee is- and I don't care)

Mike Huckabee is the Governor of Arkansas. He is pro-life and recently announced his intention to run for the presidency in 2008.

[Alex]

The reason iSm invoked him as he did (and I responded in kind) is Steve's feeling that Huckabee clumsily evaded very direct questions about his views while making appearances on the Sunday gabfests yesterday.

[Strangler Lewis]

What Roe and subsequent cases recognized correctly as a matter of common sense (if not necessarily constitutional law) is that the stakes change as the fetus becomes viable. The "icky" factor to abortion increases. Early on, the icky factor will be less in part because the woman's body is just as likely to terminate the pregnancy on its own and in part because the fetus, little miniatures notwithstanding, looks more like a parasite than a real baby.

Later on, when the fetus/baby approaches viability, the "icky" factor increases, both because the baby is more like a baby and because this is a delicate area where we expect the decision makers (i.e., women) to act quickly and responsibly.

Law school exam question: in a world where abortion was illegal and women who had them were viewed as babykillers, would a woman who willed her body to deliver a non-viable baby because she wanted to hold it and take care of it 15 weeks sooner be guilty of a crime? We'll even call her a Christian Scientist or some other religious fanatic who believed that God would keep her baby alive.