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Old 02-15-2007, 01:03 PM   #11
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I give her a snowballs chance in a jacuzzi.....not because of her gender, race, or association with the curent administration; simply because in order to be President nowadays you must either be a Governor or a VP.

Sorry Obama, McCain, Rice, Hillary and the rest of you non-Governors.....them be the facts
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Old 02-15-2007, 02:22 PM   #12
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And the NFC has won the NFL coin toss 10 years in a row.

But it seems unlikely it is going to come down to Mitt Romney and Bill Richardson. So if only a governor can get elected, which of these potential candidates are going to do it?

Tom Vilsack of Ohio (D)
Bill Richardson of New Mexico (D)
Mitt Romney of Massachusetts (R)
Mike Huckabee of Arkansas (R)

Those seem to be the leading candidates with governator experience but none of them scream "even remotely likely" to me.

So I think it is a steak likely to end in two years. (I wonder if as Carter was inaugurated in 1977 there were people saying it wasn't possible since the previous six presidents had all not been governors.)
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Old 02-15-2007, 02:45 PM   #13
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So I think it is a steak likely to end in two years. (I wonder if as Carter was inaugurated in 1977 there were people saying it wasn't possible since the previous six presidents had all not been governors.)
Fair enough...but how many of those were elected from the Senate?

Speaking of Carter; who would have thought that a Titan like Senator Jackson would be defeated by this lowly Southern State Governor? Who had ever even heard of Carter 20 months before the election?
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:04 PM   #14
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I thought sloppily when I said six previous (forgetting that you'd mentioned the vice presidency as well).

House, Vice President (Ford, unelected)
House, Senate, Vice President (Nixon)
Senate, Vice President (LBJ)
House, Senate (JFK)
No previous elective office (Eisenhower)
Senate, Vice President (Truman)
Governor (NY) (FDR)
No previous elective office (Hoover)
Governor (MA), Vice President (Coolidge)
Senate (Harding)
Governor (NJ) (Wilson)
No previous elective office (Taft)
Governor (NY), Vice President (Teddy Roosevelt)

Side note, the Wikipedia page for Woodrow Wilson includes this line: "Wilson did not learn to read until he was about 12 years old cause he was dumb."
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And the NFC has won the NFL coin toss 10 years in a row.

But it seems unlikely it is going to come down to Mitt Romney and Bill Richardson. So if only a governor can get elected, which of these potential candidates are going to do it?

Tom Vilsack of Ohio (D)
Bill Richardson of New Mexico (D)
Mitt Romney of Massachusetts (R)
Mike Huckabee of Arkansas (R)

Those seem to be the leading candidates with governator experience but none of them scream "even remotely likely" to me.
I disagree. People vote for fresh alternatives to what they're sick of. By and large, they're sick of Iraq, sick of stories about spending, and sick of smugness and big personalities. Romney oozes smug, so he's out. Vilsack is too anonymous. McCain's been hanging around too long. The Republican nominee will be pleasant evangelical Mike Huckabee. If he can hold out until people are sick of listening to Hillary's unpleasant drone and Obama's unrelenting thoughtful graciousness, Richardson, the budget balancer, will be the Democrat nominee.

Winner: Richardson, because at the end of the day, enough people will be scared of whom Huckabee would appoint to the courts.
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Is wagering allowed? Because I'll put $20 down that neither Richardson nor Huckabee gets even 35% of the delegates needed for a nomination, let alone actually wins the presidency.

In the case of Richardson, I wouldn't mind losing that bet, but that's the way I see it.
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it would be even more amusing if *all* the candidates this year were women... whatever would america do?!
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I disagree. People vote for fresh alternatives to what they're sick of. By and large, they're sick of Iraq, sick of stories about spending, and sick of smugness and big personalities. Romney oozes smug, so he's out. Vilsack is too anonymous. McCain's been hanging around too long. The Republican nominee will be pleasant evangelical Mike Huckabee. If he can hold out until people are sick of listening to Hillary's unpleasant drone and Obama's unrelenting thoughtful graciousness, Richardson, the budget balancer, will be the Democrat nominee.

Winner: Richardson, because at the end of the day, enough people will be scared of whom Huckabee would appoint to the courts.
If the Dems are smart enough to put Richardson up there I just may cross party lines and vote for him.....I doubt if I am alone on this either.
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Is wagering allowed? Because I'll put $20 down that neither Richardson nor Huckabee gets even 35% of the delegates needed for a nomination, let alone actually wins the presidency.

In the case of Richardson, I wouldn't mind losing that bet, but that's the way I see it.
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