Amazing Race: All Stars

[lashbear]

I guess the reason we don't really like Romber (and btw we also dislike the laziness of compressing two names into one like Romber and Brangelina) is because we believe that people should have a bit of integrity to their character, and some morals, but Rob & Amber have demonstrated time and time again that these shows are just devices to allow us to see the worst of peoples behaviour.

We will continue to watch it, because you do get people with some sense of compassion and morals who will stop and help someone who's broken down, or who will give money to teams in need (especially if they pose no threat to your team)

I think it is possible to win one of these races without lowering yourself to Unconscionable Conduct.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by lashbear

I think it is possible to win one of these races without lowering yourself to Unconscionable Conduct.

I guess I just don't see using tactics that are within the rules as "unconscionable." These people voluntarily signed up for a race. Not a cooperative team-building event, not a leisurely world tour. A race. Short of breaking rules or causing someone harm, I don't find anything done within the game to get an advantage in that game "unconscionable". Within the game, Rob and Amber are ruthless, but above board. They don't cheat, they don't blame their failures on anyone but themselves, and they are completely up front about being there to win the game.

They don't strike me as the type who would carry that same philosophy outside of the game. The may be arrogant and ruthlessly competitive, but nothing's ever given me the impression that they're like that in real life.
Their whole attitude is, "This is a game, the only goal is to win the game, so why weaken my position with concepts of charity, honor, and morality that have no bearing on the game."

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I guess I just don't see using tactics that are within the rules as "unconscionable." These people voluntarily signed up for a race. Not a cooperative team-building event, not a leisurely world tour. A race. Short of breaking rules or causing someone harm, I don't find anything done within the game to get an advantage in that game "unconscionable". Within the game, Rob and Amber are ruthless, but above board. They don't cheat, they don't blame their failures on anyone but themselves, and they are completely up front about being there to win the game.

They don't strike me as the type who would carry that same philosophy outside of the game. The may be arrogant and ruthlessly competitive, but nothing's ever given me the impression that they're like that in real life.
Their whole attitude is, "This is a game, the only goal is to win the game, so why weaken my position with concepts of charity, honor, and morality that have no bearing on the game."

If I wanted to watch a reality show about lying, cheating, and back-stabbing I'd watch Survivor or Big Brother.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by JWBear

If I wanted to watch a reality show about lying, cheating, and back-stabbing I'd watch Survivor or Big Brother.

Cheating?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Cheating?

Cheating on the rules, or cheating other racers... Both are wrong, IMO. My I remind you that it was R&A that stole the paper with directions that a flight attendant wrote out for U&J? Nasty people. Ugh!

[Nephythys]

See, I just don't get that. This is not a competition on who is nicer, more generous or kinder- it's a RACE. It's not like they were physically assaulting people- they simply took advantage of circumstances that presented themselves.

I think Rob masterminded one of the most amazing moves the first season he was on- remember the meat eating competition?? His choice to bail out and convince other teams to do so ensured their ability to stay in the race.

[Jughead P. Jones]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

I think Rob masterminded one of the most amazing moves the first season he was on- remember the meat eating competition?? His choice to bail out and convince other teams to do so ensured their ability to stay in the race.

That's the point in season 7 where I said to myself..."Damn...that's BRILLIANT!!!"

That way, he secured his position by getting Meredith/Gretchen and Ray/Deana to drop out AFTER he did!

[Nephythys]

funny- the quote as soon as I left this page was-

If you follow all the rules, you miss all the fun.
- Katherine Hepburn

posted by JWBear

Someone notify the people on TAR

[lashbear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Short of breaking rules or causing someone harm

Originally Posted by Nephythys

It's not like they were physically assaulting people

Ah, see, but this brings me to remember when the vehicle containing the Hippy dudes overturned. There was every possibility to the casual observer that something could have gone terribly wrong, but rather than stop to check that people were OK, R&A just drove merrily past making conversation to the effect that they were sure to get an advantage from the situation.

Problem is, there aren't a whole lot of rules to be broken in the first place.

Not cricket IMO, but that's just me. You know how Mary Poppins I can be.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by lashbear

There was every possibility to the casual observer that something could have gone terribly wrong, but rather than stop to check that people were OK, R&A just drove merrily past

Ahh but the problem is that YOU were not the casual observer. The way they edit the show it's quite possible that by the time R&A drove by there were four tow trucks, eleven ambulances, a gaggle of fire trucks, two priests and a girl scout on the scene, but in the "editing" process all YOU would see would be the two of them driving by the "wreck".