The MousePod - MousePod #26 - ...and the Oscar Goes to Disney

[mousepod]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Hey, does anyone know the year the Looney Tunes version of Tortoise and the Hare was released, vs. the Disney version that was almost universally panned (and compared unfavorably to the Bugs Bunny counterpart)?

1941 - "Tortoise Beats Hare" by Tex Avery
1943 - "Toroise Wins By A Hare" by Bob Clampett
1947 - "Rabbit Transit" by I Freleng

meanwhile, Disney's Toby Tortoise and Max Hare appeared again in "Toby Tortoise Returns" in 1936.

I'm pretty sure I have all (or most) of these cartoons.

And for the record, there are some "experts" who cite Max Hare as the inspiration for Bugs' personality.

[innerSpaceman]

So if that first Bugs version, in '41, is the one we were all comparing the Disney version to ... that's not a terribly long time between the two (6 years?) ... and I hereby call shenanigans on apologies for chrono-primitivism.

[mousepod]

oh... and there are at least eight Paramount animated shorts from 1948-1960 that feature "Moe Hare" and "Tommy Tortoise".

(sorry this episode is boring to you, iSm - I intend to constantly change the format, so everyone is bound to love some and hate some. I personally love this one, but perhaps it's because I was sad that I didn't get to enjoy the Disney salon in Long Beach)

[innerSpaceman]

Jesse, it's simply because I lived it. I think the temporary change of format and voices will be very interesting to your listeners.


(plus, I don't want to discourage you from edited shows!)

[mousepod]

Six years was a long time back in the golden age of animation. Heck, "The Old Mill" was only five years later than "Flowers and Trees".

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by mousepod

Six years was a long time back in the golden age of animation. Heck, "The Old Mill" was only five years later than "Flowers and Trees".

Exactly, and I'm not up to that part, and after we hung up, I felt I should have had much more to say about this. The Old Mill was so incredibly cinematic, it played like a sweeping epic feature. It holds up as a Silly Symphony, virtual no plot, but a day in the life, but done with the sweep and grandeur of Gone With the Wind. And used as a format to show off the multiplane, it did not overuse it. Reiterates again to me, Ub Iwerks was a genius all the way around and not merely a great animator. But then, I'm totally stating the obvious here.

[innerSpaceman]

Oh, no doubt. Thanks to Disney ... that period of five or six years saw the most amazing growth in the art of animation EVER. An achievement unequalled to this day.


It's just that I got the impression most people felt the Bugs version was vaguely in the 50's. But perhaps I'm wrong about that assumption.

[Not Afraid]

You know, I will hold a thousand parties but STOP TALKING! Stick with what you do best, bitch.

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

You know, I will hold a thousand parties but STOP TALKING! Stick with what you do best, bitch.

Pshaw....

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

You know, I will hold a thousand parties but STOP TALKING! Stick with what you do best, bitch.

Just do what I do and mute the sound on yourself.

'Cause I think you are easily among the most charming speakers on the program.



(and that's not just because I love you dearly)



ETA: And what exactly would that be that you do best, that's not talking????