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Old 04-26-2007, 09:26 PM   #251
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Interesting theories, but might be reaching a bit far. They've established several times that the others have tons of info on everyone. The John Locke he "knew" could easily refer to him having seen whatever files they have.

The fence may have left him not quite dead, left to be healed by the island.

The end of the Paulo/Nikki episode established that Sawyer did know them, he was just being an obtuse ass.

True, he could have "known" Locke thru the files alone I suppose....but the way he put it seemed to me that he knew Locke personally.

You are right about the fence....when Kate crossed over she even hesitated, almost like she thought the Russian may still be breathing. That, and when he appeared in this last episode, it has been pointed out to me that his ears were still reddish. So, I guess it is very possible that he faked his death at the barrier. Question still remains though....why fake death? why at the barrier? and, how did he know Locke was going to push him into the field?

As for Sawyer......I think his not knowing who they were was genuine at first and stubborn after he was told. Yes, in the end he called them by their names out of respect but I didn't see anything that convinced me that he knew for sure what their names were all along.....it was left up to viewer interpretation I believe(so many things are on LOST as this gives the writers more avenues).
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:18 AM   #252
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Awesome awesome awesome awesome awesome episode. Awesome.

Just brilliantly constructed. From the parallel to Sawyer's back story (being convinced he's been given the info and opportunity to kill someone he wants to kill only to find out that he was led on for his informants own purposes...with, of course, the extra twist at the end) to the perfectly executed ambiguity of who exactly Locke had tied up.

The moment Locke uttered "No one can hear you," I instantly thought, "Okay, they want us to think it's his dad, but it's going to turn out to be Ben." I rolled my eyes at that. But then they showed their hand early with Locke saying it was Ben. THEN I got interested, because now I could see it going either way. Was John really going to make Sawyer relive his sin to the letter? "It's Ben, kill him! Psych, it was my dad!" Did he really have Ben? Or will we find out that the John's-Dad-is-Tom-Sawyer theory is true and the Ben story was just because Sawyer wouldn't have believed it any other way.

As it got closer it got more obvious, already having the better than sneaking suspicion that Tom Sawyer and Locke's dad were one and the same. But it was still pulled off well enough that until that hood came of, some doubt remained.

So, what do you think, does that count for John? Having him killed rather than killing him himself? Will the island accept that as his sacrifice?
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:25 AM   #253
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Excellent freaking episode... So into the show again....
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:20 PM   #254
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Someone needs to shoot Kate. What a useless waste of oxygen.

Sayid is still the only person on the island with a brain.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:47 PM   #255
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Kate sucks. But Evangeline is hot, so I'll let her live. Sayid flat out rules. Locke. I love Locke. I think he gets it better than anyone. Do what needs to be done. Do your best to do right by those who do right by you, but don't let sentimentality, assumptions, or loyalty cloud you from finding answers.
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:00 PM   #256
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What GD said, plus.....

I love Sayiid. LOVE! Every time he gets involved, I sit up and pay extra attention. His character is just fantastic.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:48 PM   #257
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...I love Locke. I think he gets it better than anyone. Do what needs to be done. Do your best to do right by those who do right by you, but don't let sentimentality, assumptions, or loyalty cloud you from finding answers.
He just needs to stop being so bloody gullible and boneheaded.
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He just needs to stop being so bloody gullible and boneheaded.
Perhaps. But I think he's on to something. I think he's decided that he knows he's being lead on, but he doesn't care. If it means getting more info, even at the cost of getting "suckered", it's worth it.
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:40 PM   #259
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please have a sayid ep before the season ends....
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Old 05-03-2007, 09:06 PM   #260
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Love Sayid. Everything about the character.

I go back and forth on Locke. His character is tragic, but moves forward based on faith, seemingly wanting to believe the best about people in spite of being played over and over. That's what makes me like and dislike his character - he's easily manipulated, but is easily manipulated because he wants to believe the best about people.
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